[Vision2020] Make-Believe Maverick
keely emerinemix
kjajmix1 at msn.com
Sun Oct 5 14:16:58 PDT 2008
I really could go all day, and then some, without this or any other discussion deteriorating to the various features, real and imagined, of Al Gore's ummmmm, package.
Keely
http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/
> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 14:34:13 -0600
> From: no.weatherman at gmail.com
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Make-Believe Maverick
>
> Paul,
>
> However much I may be a HUGE questioner of Barrack Hussein Obama and
> his unknown background, I am NOT a supporter of John McCain, as anyone
> can see by reading my posts. I am a contrarian. I'm like the wind in
> Vision 20/20's echo chamber that makes you think twice before you
> relieve yourself facing the wrong direction.
>
> But since you asked, I have a few observations.
>
> 1. The first thing I noticed is that Rolling Stone is hardly a
> credible source on presidential candidates when you consider the fact
> that eight years ago they air-brushed a boner on Al Gore to enhance
> his package for their cover:
>
> http://i.rollingstone.com/assets/rs/11/3861/images/83426_lg.jpg
>
> Yes, that would be an ad hominem argument if I used the word
> "therefore," but since I did not use it the statement stands on its
> own as a legitimate observation, at least according to the resident
> logic instructor in this forum:
> http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2008-October/057044.html
>
> 2. The second thing I noticed is that the author used the name "John
> Sidney McCain III" four times in his story. IOW, Rolling Stone
> Magazine didn't get the message that "It's no longer the case that in
> the vernacular, we use candidate's middle names. . .":
> http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2008-September/056685.html
>
> 3. The third thing I noticed was that the writer found 15 different
> people to say negative things about Senator John McCain which
> shouldn't surprise anyone because Washington begets enemies —
> especially political enemies. To illustrate the point, however,
> consider how many people on this list have said negative things about
> me in less than two weeks — what? seven, eight, nine folks in a
> two-week period and some of you have written some extremely hateful
> remarks. But RS could only find 15 people to vilify John McCain after
> his extensive career in DC. I'd say he's doing pretty good.
>
> 4. The fourth thing I noticed was that the story was largely a
> narrative that was completely unsupported by any sources whatsoever.
> Consider the following example:
>
> "McCain's admittance to Annapolis was preordained by his bloodline.
> But martial discipline did not seem to have much of an impact on his
> character. By his own account, McCain was a lazy, incurious student;
> he squeaked by only by prevailing upon his buddies to help him cram
> for exams. He continued to get sauced and treat girls badly. Before
> meeting a girlfriend's parents for the first time, McCain got so
> shitfaced that he literally crashed through the screen door when he
> showed up in his white midshipman's uniform."
>
> No source is identified for this storyline and the majority of the
> story reads just like this.
>
> 5. The fifth thing I noticed was the author's objectivity. He really
> impressed me with his inability to find one mitigating circumstance,
> one kind construction, one favorable witness, or one good thing to say
> about Sen. John McCain.
>
> 6. The sixth thing I noticed is that John McCain, who is 72 years old,
> has written only one memoir (at least that this story referenced)
> whereas Barrack Hussein Obama, who is 47 years old, has already
> written two. One man has served his country for his entire adult life,
> the other is a former community organizer who has a couple of years in
> DC under his belt.
>
> 7. Finally, the last thing I noticed is that if RS could fabricate
> this much dirt on John McCain, using only 15 sources to confirm
> absolutely none of the narrative, can you imagine what they would
> discover if they started asking the hard questions about Barrack
> Hussein Obama's long-standing personal and professional relationship
> with domestic terrorist Bill Ayers? Now THAT would be juicy!
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Interesting article. It's a long read, but there's a lot in there. Any
> > response on this from McCain supporters?
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > Chasuk wrote:
> >> http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain
> >>
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