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I really could go all day, and then some, without this or any other discussion deteriorating to the various features, real and imagined, of Al Gore's ummmmm, package. <br><br>Keely<br>http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/<br><br><br>> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 14:34:13 -0600<br>> From: no.weatherman@gmail.com<br>> To: vision2020@moscow.com<br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Make-Believe Maverick<br>> <br>> Paul,<br>> <br>> However much I may be a HUGE questioner of Barrack Hussein Obama and<br>> his unknown background, I am NOT a supporter of John McCain, as anyone<br>> can see by reading my posts. I am a contrarian. I'm like the wind in<br>> Vision 20/20's echo chamber that makes you think twice before you<br>> relieve yourself facing the wrong direction.<br>> <br>> But since you asked, I have a few observations.<br>> <br>> 1.        The first thing I noticed is that Rolling Stone is hardly a<br>> credible source on presidential candidates when you consider the fact<br>> that eight years ago they air-brushed a boner on Al Gore to enhance<br>> his package for their cover:<br>> <br>> http://i.rollingstone.com/assets/rs/11/3861/images/83426_lg.jpg<br>> <br>> Yes, that would be an ad hominem argument if I used the word<br>> "therefore," but since I did not use it the statement stands on its<br>> own as a legitimate observation, at least according to the resident<br>> logic instructor in this forum:<br>> http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2008-October/057044.html<br>> <br>> 2.        The second thing I noticed is that the author used the name "John<br>> Sidney McCain III" four times in his story. IOW, Rolling Stone<br>> Magazine didn't get the message that "It's no longer the case that in<br>> the vernacular, we use candidate's middle names. . .":<br>> http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2008-September/056685.html<br>> <br>> 3.        The third thing I noticed was that the writer found 15 different<br>> people to say negative things about Senator John McCain which<br>> shouldn't surprise anyone because Washington begets enemies —<br>> especially political enemies. To illustrate the point, however,<br>> consider how many people on this list have said negative things about<br>> me in less than two weeks — what? seven, eight, nine folks in a<br>> two-week period and some of you have written some extremely hateful<br>> remarks. But RS could only find 15 people to vilify John McCain after<br>> his extensive career in DC. I'd say he's doing pretty good.<br>> <br>> 4.        The fourth thing I noticed was that the story was largely a<br>> narrative that was completely unsupported by any sources whatsoever.<br>> Consider the following example:<br>> <br>> "McCain's admittance to Annapolis was preordained by his bloodline.<br>> But martial discipline did not seem to have much of an impact on his<br>> character. By his own account, McCain was a lazy, incurious student;<br>> he squeaked by only by prevailing upon his buddies to help him cram<br>> for exams. He continued to get sauced and treat girls badly. Before<br>> meeting a girlfriend's parents for the first time, McCain got so<br>> shitfaced that he literally crashed through the screen door when he<br>> showed up in his white midshipman's uniform."<br>> <br>> No source is identified for this storyline and the majority of the<br>> story reads just like this.<br>> <br>> 5.        The fifth thing I noticed was the author's objectivity. He really<br>> impressed me with his inability to find one mitigating circumstance,<br>> one kind construction, one favorable witness, or one good thing to say<br>> about Sen. John McCain.<br>> <br>> 6.        The sixth thing I noticed is that John McCain, who is 72 years old,<br>> has written only one memoir (at least that this story referenced)<br>> whereas Barrack Hussein Obama, who is 47 years old, has already<br>> written two. One man has served his country for his entire adult life,<br>> the other is a former community organizer who has a couple of years in<br>> DC under his belt.<br>> <br>> 7.        Finally, the last thing I noticed is that if RS could fabricate<br>> this much dirt on John McCain, using only 15 sources to confirm<br>> absolutely none of the narrative, can you imagine what they would<br>> discover if they started asking the hard questions about Barrack<br>> Hussein Obama's long-standing personal and professional relationship<br>> with domestic terrorist Bill Ayers? Now THAT would be juicy!<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter@yahoo.com> wrote:<br>> > Interesting article. It's a long read, but there's a lot in there. Any<br>> > response on this from McCain supporters?<br>> ><br>> > Paul<br>> ><br>> > Chasuk wrote:<br>> >> http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain<br>> >><br>> >> =======================================================<br>> >> List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>> >> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br>> >> http://www.fsr.net<br>> >> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> >> =======================================================<br>> >><br>> >><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > =======================================================<br>> > List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>> > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br>> > http://www.fsr.net<br>> > mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > =======================================================<br>> ><br>> <br>> =======================================================<br>> List services made available by First Step Internet, <br>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <br>> http://www.fsr.net <br>> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> =======================================================<br><br /><hr />Want to do more with Windows Live? 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