[Vision2020] USATODAY.com - Courts areaskedtocrackdownonbloggers, websites
Matt Decker
mattd2107 at hotmail.com
Wed Oct 11 22:42:36 PDT 2006
J,
All this would go away bye stating your true name and if you actually live
in Moscow. Instead you insist on drama. well I guess I keep biting.
You call Donovan a coward, but yet can't answer a simple question.
HMMMMMMMMM
Matt
>From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] USATODAY.com - Courts
>areaskedtocrackdownonbloggers, websites
>Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 22:27:36 -0700
>
>Coward! I knew you were going to take this track. Putz's like you always
>do. You have NO proof of what you have said to me just like you have no
>proof against the others you have bad-mouthed.
>
>Like I said..."believe" what you will - you are STILL wrong. I DARE you to
>show me ANY police reports with either name on it that has not been shown
>here to be false. Nope, didn't think you would.
>
>You are a liar, a fraud, a seriously ill "human being that has NOTHING to
>do with Aspergers.
>
>Think Dougie and his bunch are going to support you?! Guess again. YOU
>are what they stand up against at every turn. My guess? They haven't even
>talked to you in over a year.
>
>Discontinue this conversation for now, you coward, you fraud....we'll see
>you back again. You are like a bad stain that never seems to be able to
>get totally washed out no matter what bleach product is used.
>
>
>J :]
>
>
>
>
>
>>From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>>To: J Ford <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>, vision2020 at moscow.com
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] USATODAY.com - Courts are
>>askedtocrackdownonbloggers, websites
>>Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 12:48:45 -0700 (PDT)
>>
>>J,
>>
>> No, my discontinuation is a lack of interest in communicating with
>>someone I believe to be severely psychologically disturbed and that such
>>communication is unproductive and a waste of my valuable time.
>>
>> If 8 witnesses and several police reports with your name on it is not
>>evidence in your eyes, or you cannot even see it as a cause of suspicion
>>to the average person, that is fine, but it demonstrates to me your lack
>>understanding of what is evidence.
>>
>> I don't know of anyone that thinks you are "fair and balance" J. You
>>even deny your name is J. So clearly, communication with you and trying
>>to find anything that is reality to you in which to base a conversation,
>>is rather frustrating if not impossible. All you can seem to manage to do
>>in a conversation is call me names used by elementary children, and use
>>jokes that went stale about the time the Titanic went under. I don't
>>think you are capable of sound rational thought grounded in a reality
>>based context.
>>
>> I feel I am talking with Douglas Stambler when speaking with you.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> _DJA
>>
>>J Ford <privatejf32 at hotmail.com> wrote: DJA;
>>
>>Well; given your silence I gather this all you DO have. I'd say "Nice
>>Try"
>>but seriously, I will instead say "It was more of a pathetic effort by a
>>pathetic little do-nothing-go-nowhere fool."
>>
>>Please, feel free to continue showing your true diminutive self to the
>>world....we all need a good laugh right about now.
>>
>>Oh, and "believe" what you want...you are still WRONG!!! and you know it.
>>You just aren't man enough to admit it. Figures.
>>
>>
>>
>>J :]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >From: Donovan Arnold
>> >To: J Ford
>>, vision2020 at moscow.com
>> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] USATODAY.com - Courts are asked
>> >tocrackdownonbloggers, websites
>> >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 00:11:30 -0700 (PDT)
>> >
>> >Jackie,
>> >
>> >A person can be found guilty in civil court. You can get all excited
>>about
>> >the terminology used for it if you want. But, if you go a head and keep
>> >destroying people's property, making false complaints against them to
>>the
>> >city, and demand people "PROVE IT", see where you end up. I believe
>>only
>> >guilty people say that.
>> >
>> > Right after you had an argument with Phil Roderick his property was
>> >destroyed, and you were asking all sorts of questions about this
>>security
>> >systems.
>> >
>> >
>>http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2005-April/015987.html
>> >
>> >http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2005-April/016001.html
>> >
>> >http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2005-April/016005.html
>> >
>> > That vandalism is on police record.
>> >
>> >
>> > You got into an argument with Austin Storm, and surprise, a false
>> >complaint about his business was filed with the the city.
>> >
>> > http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2006-May/029460.html
>> >
>>http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2006-May/029453.html
>> >
>> > That false report was filed and is on record.
>> >
>> >
>> > Third, you have been endlessly been attacking Doug Wilson and his
>> >property was attacked four times.
>> >
>> >http://right-mind.us/blogs/intolerista_island/archive/2006/04/03/42703.aspx
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > That is also on police record.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Best,
>> >
>> > _DJA
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >J Ford
>> wrote: I knew you'd back off your
>> >statement the minute I challenged you!
>> >
>> >We'll see just how accurate you are, you putz!
>> >
>> >You name ONE SINGLE piece of property that you can prove that I have
>> >"destroyed"...just one.
>> >
>> >You and I and everyone else KNOWS you are lieing - not to mention you
>>never
>> >spoke to any "county official" and there isn't one alive that would back
>> >YOU
>> >up.
>> >
>> >You WILL learn you take the word of liars and present them as fact -
>>you!
>> >loose, IF that is even what has happened. My guess - you simply are
>>taking
>> >what others have said on this list and on other's blogs and decided that
>> >makes it YOUR truth and that they are telling YOU these things. Hear
>> >little
>> >voices in your head often, do you?
>> >
>> >You don't know a damn thing about me except what you have been told by a
>> >bunch of known liars and deceivers. NOW, you get to see where that gets
>> >you.
>> >
>> >Oh, and BTW - you don't get "convicted" in civil court, you troll!
>>Either
>> >they find for the plaintiff or they find for the respondent; being
>> >"convicted" means you spend time in jail or on probation and have a
>>record.
>> >Surely, a college man such as yourself should know the difference.
>>Mayhap
>> >Sunil can explain it to you.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >J :]
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > >From: Donovan Arnold
>> > >To: J Ford
>> >, vision2020 at moscow.com
>> > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] USATODAY.com - Courts are asked
>> > >tocrackdownonbloggers, websites
>> > >Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 22:32:10 -0700 (PDT)
>> > >
>> > >J,
>> > >
>> > > If it were my property you destroyed, you bet I would call them J.
>>I
>> > >think there is more than enough circumstantial evidence against you J
>> >for
>> > >a conviction in a civil court, as is what a county officer told me in
>>a
>> > >private conversation. In a criminal court, it would a bit harder. But
>> >when
>> > >eight people (that I know of) you have known to have strong public
>> > >disagreements with end up with false complaints filed against them
>>and
>> > >damaged property, it doesn't bode well for you. Especially when you
>> >don't
>> > >work and have lots of time, have been caught on people's private
>> >property
>> > >taking pictures, and have no less than 200 emails slandering them
>> > >personally on a public forum.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Best,
>> > >
>> > > _DJA
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >J Ford
>> > wrote: Go for it you lousy little weasel!
>> > > The MPD phone number is on the tip of
>> > >your tongue - use it! Just be sure you got the cahoonas to withstand
>>the
>> > >consequences.
>> > >
>> > >J :]
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >From: Donovan Arnold
>> > > >To: J Ford
>> > >, vision2020 at moscow.com
>> > > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] USATODAY.com - Courts are asked
>> > > >tocrackdownonbloggers, websites
>> > > >Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 21:47:05 -0700 (PDT)
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >"Better yet, go for a long walk on a short pier and make my day!"
>> > > >J
>> > > >
>> > > >Wow J! That was a great line. That is funny. Did you just
>> > > >come up with that all by yourself? That's so fresh and timely.
>> > > >Got any jokes about the Czar of Russia and the Bolshevik Revolution
>> > >before
>> > > >that expires?
>> > > >
>> > > >Evidence? Yeap, got evidence. Plenty. Be careful what you wish for.
>> > > >
>> > > >Best,
>> > > >
>> > > >_DJA
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >J Ford
>> > > wrote: Well, by golly - ya got me, DJA!
>> > > >I must confess, I confess. You are
>> > > >right...I DO own a camera. Well, to be truthful, I own several -
>>some
>> >of
>> > > >them are even antiques.
>> > > >
>> > > >BUT NOT ONE OF THEM HAVE EVER BEEN USED TO STALK PEOPLE OR THEIR
>> > >CHILDREN.
>> > > >
>> > > >You or anyone else that has ANY proof to contrary, might I suggest
>>you
>> > > >prove
>> > > >it or shut the h**l up! I have never, THAT'S NEVER, damaged
>>anyone's
>> > > >property nor have I EVER made any "anonymous phone call(s) to
>> >government
>> > > >authorities making false claims". Again, you got proof, I mean hard
>> > >core,
>> > > >in paper, in video, etc. type of proof and I am sure people would be
>> > > >interested. Since you do not 'cause I have NEVER DONE ANY OF THOSE
>> > >THINGS,
>> > > >shut up!
>> > > >
>> > > >Better yet, go for a long walk on a short pier and make my day!
>> > > >
>> > > >J :]
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > >From: Donovan Arnold
>> > > > >To: J Ford
>> > > >, vision2020 at moscow.com
>> > > > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] USATODAY.com - Courts are asked to
>> > > > >crackdownonbloggers, websites
>> > > > >Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 20:21:32 -0700 (PDT)
>> > > > >
>> > > > >J,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I don't recall having any time to stalk people as I think you
>>seem
>> > >to
>> > > > >have J, as I have worked two jobs and go to school full time. I
>> >would
>> > > >also
>> > > > >think that it would be smart to at least own a camera too if I
>>was
>> > >into
>> > > > >stalking. Got one I can borrow J? But nonetheless, if you think
>>so,
>> >go
>> > > >for
>> > > > >it J.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Say J, how come so many people that you publicly voice
>> >indifference
>> > >to
>> > > > >shortly there after end up with damaged property or an anonymous
>> >phone
>> > > > >call to government authorities making false claims against them?
>>Is
>> > >that
>> > > > >just a coincidence?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Best,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > _DJA
>> > > > >
>> > > > >J Ford
>> > > > wrote: And the people YOU have harassed
>> > > > >and stalked just this past year...should we
>> > > > >get in on that "sue-em-dano" train, too?
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >J :]
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > >From: Donovan Arnold
>> > > > > >To: J Ford
>> > > > >, vision2020 at moscow.com
>> > > > > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] USATODAY.com - Courts are asked to
>>crack
>> > > > > >downonbloggers, websites
>> > > > > >Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 19:30:28 -0700 (PDT)
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >I for one think Doug Wilson should sue the crap out of all the
>> >people
>> > > > >that
>> > > > > >have been harassing him over the last five years. I think it
>>will
>> > > >bring
>> > > > > >some closure to people that harass not only him, but the entire
>> > > > >population
>> > > > > >of the Palouse about him and anyone that knows him.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I am not a follower of Doug Wilson. But I wish him the best
>>in
>> > > > > >defending himself against some of these people that just go way
>> > > > >overboard
>> > > > > >and violate his rights in their efforts to try and prove
>>something
>> > >we
>> > > > >just
>> > > > > >don't care about.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Best,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > _DJA
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >J Ford
>> > > > > wrote: We best be watching the County
>> > > > > >logs for this one to come up soon, then. I
>> > > > > >am sure since the MPD did not respond favorably to Dougie-BOY's
>> > >attempt
>> > > > >to
>> > > > > >harass people, he will try this tact. And since Greggy is no
>> >longer
>> > > >his
>> > > > > >pet
>> > > > > >attorney, available at his every beck and call, I am just as
>>sure
>> > > > > >Dougie-BOY
>> > > > > >will be hiring some out-of-town-big-wig lawyer to handle the
>>case.
>> > > > >Which,
>> > > > > >come to think of it, would make sense even if Greggy weren't
>>into
>> > >"real
>> > > > > >estate" these days...considering he can't handle the "bigger"
>>cases
>> > > > >anyway
>> > > > > >and Dougie- BOY proves his lack of confidence in Greggy when it
>> >comes
>> > > >to
>> > > > > >such cases. Just look at the Sitler and Jamin cases - wasn't
>> >Greggy
>> > > >who
>> > > > > >was
>> > > > > >called on to take those for the church, now was it?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >Sorry, Greggy....no vote of confidence for you from the big guy.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >J :]
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > >From: "Michael"
>> > > > > > >To:
>> > > > > > >Subject: [Vision2020] USATODAY.com - Courts are asked to crack
>> >down
>> > > > > > >onbloggers, websites
>> > > > > > >Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 09:51:23 -0700
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >For those of you not aware, the front page of USA Today
>>mentions
>> > >the
>> > > > >law
>> > > > > > >suit against my friend Frank Vance; I figured some of you
>>might
>> >be
>> > > > > > >interested since Doug Wilson helped make all this happen
>>(Vance
>> >was
>> > > > >first
>> > > > > > >pursuing in part Wilson's dishonest cover up of Ligonier
>> > >Ministrie's
>> > > >RC
>> > > > > > >Sproul Jr, Wilson's buddy who was defrocked in part for deceit
>> >and
>> > > > > >pastoral
>> > > > > > >abuse.).
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >Here's the link:
>> > > > > >
>> > >
>> >http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20061003/1a_cover03.art.htm
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >"Ligonier Ministries, a religious broadcaster and publisher in
>> >Lake
>> > > > >Mary,
>> > > > > > >Fla., has taken the unusual step of asking a judge to
>> >pre-emptively
>> > > > > >silence
>> > > > > > >a blogger to try to prevent him from criticizing the
>>ministries.
>> > > >Judges
>> > > > > > >historically have refused to place such limits on traditional
>> > > > >publishers.
>> > > > > > >The lawsuit cites postings on a blog by Frank Vance that
>> >described
>> > > > > >Ligonier
>> > > > > > >president Timothy Dick as "a shark" and as coming from a
>>"family
>> >of
>> > > > > > >nincompoops." The suit says the entries are false and have
>> >damaged
>> > > > >Dick's
>> > > > > > >reputation."
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >Wilson is now on record claiming there is no reason to think
>> >there
>> > >is
>> > > > > > >anything wrong with such a law suit (ahem).
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >Michael Metzler
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >www.poohsthink.com
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
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