[Vision2020] USATODAY.com - Courts are askedtocrackdownonbloggers, websites

J Ford privatejf32 at hotmail.com
Wed Oct 11 22:27:36 PDT 2006 

Coward! I knew you were going to take this track.  Putz's like you always 
do.  You have NO proof of what you have said to me just like you have no 
proof against the others you have bad-mouthed.

Like I said..."believe" what you will - you are STILL wrong.  I DARE you to 
show me ANY police reports with either name on it that has not been shown 
here to be false.  Nope, didn't think you would.

You are a liar, a fraud, a seriously ill "human being that has NOTHING to do 
with Aspergers.

Think Dougie and his bunch are going to support you?!  Guess again.  YOU are 
what they stand up against at every turn.  My guess?  They haven't even 
talked to you in over a year.

Discontinue this conversation for now, you coward, you fraud....we'll see 
you back again.  You are like a bad stain that never seems to be able to get 
totally washed out no matter what bleach product is used.


J  :]





>From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>To: J Ford <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>, vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] USATODAY.com - Courts are 
>askedtocrackdownonbloggers, websites
>Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 12:48:45 -0700 (PDT)
>
>J,
>
>  No, my discontinuation is a lack of interest in  communicating with 
>someone I believe to be severely psychologically  disturbed and that such 
>communication is unproductive and a waste of my  valuable time.
>
>  If 8 witnesses and several police reports with  your name on it is not 
>evidence in your eyes, or you cannot even see it  as a cause of suspicion 
>to the average person, that is fine, but it  demonstrates to me your lack 
>understanding of what is evidence.
>
>   I don't know of anyone that thinks you are "fair and balance" J.  You 
>even deny your name is J. So clearly, communication with you  and trying to 
>find anything that is reality to you in which to base a  conversation, is 
>rather frustrating if not impossible. All you can seem  to manage to do in 
>a conversation is call me names used by elementary  children, and use jokes 
>that went stale about the time the Titanic went  under. I don't think you 
>are capable of sound rational thought grounded  in a reality based context.
>
>   I feel I am talking with Douglas Stambler when speaking with you.
>
>
>
>   Best,
>
>   _DJA
>
>J Ford <privatejf32 at hotmail.com> wrote:  DJA;
>
>Well; given your silence I gather this all you DO have.  I'd say "Nice Try"
>but seriously, I will instead say "It was more of a pathetic effort by a
>pathetic little do-nothing-go-nowhere fool."
>
>Please, feel free to continue showing your true diminutive self to the
>world....we all need a good laugh right about now.
>
>Oh, and "believe" what you want...you are still WRONG!!! and you know it.
>You just aren't man enough to admit it.  Figures.
>
>
>
>J  :]
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: Donovan Arnold
> >To: J Ford
>, vision2020 at moscow.com
> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] USATODAY.com - Courts are asked
> >tocrackdownonbloggers, websites
> >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 00:11:30 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Jackie,
> >
> >A person can be found guilty in civil court. You can  get all excited 
>about
> >the terminology used for it if you want. But, if  you go a head and keep
> >destroying people's property, making false  complaints against them to 
>the
> >city, and demand people "PROVE IT", see  where you end up. I believe only
> >guilty people say that.
> >
> >   Right after you had an argument with Phil Roderick his property was
> >destroyed, and you were asking all sorts of questions about this  
>security
> >systems.
> >
> >       http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2005-April/015987.html
> >
> >http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2005-April/016001.html
> >
> >http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2005-April/016005.html
> >
> >   That vandalism is on police record.
> >
> >
> >   You got into an argument with Austin Storm, and surprise, a false
> >complaint about his business was filed with the the city.
> >
> >       http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2006-May/029460.html
> >           
>http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2006-May/029453.html
> >
> >   That false report was filed and is on record.
> >
> >
> >   Third, you have been endlessly been attacking Doug Wilson and his
> >property was attacked four times.
> >
> >http://right-mind.us/blogs/intolerista_island/archive/2006/04/03/42703.aspx
> >
> >
> >
> >   That is also on police record.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   Best,
> >
> >   _DJA
> >
> >
> >
> >J Ford
>  wrote:  I knew you'd back off your
> >statement the minute I challenged you!
> >
> >We'll see just how accurate you are, you putz!
> >
> >You name ONE SINGLE piece of property that you can prove that I have
> >"destroyed"...just one.
> >
> >You and I and everyone else KNOWS you are lieing - not to mention you 
>never
> >spoke to any "county official" and there isn't one alive that would back
> >YOU
> >up.
> >
> >You WILL learn you take the word of liars and present them as fact - you!
> >loose, IF that is even what has happened.  My guess - you simply are 
>taking
> >what others have said on this list and on other's blogs and decided that
> >makes it YOUR truth and that they are telling YOU these things.  Hear
> >little
> >voices in your head often, do you?
> >
> >You don't know a damn thing about me except what you have been told by a
> >bunch of known liars and deceivers.  NOW, you get to see where that gets
> >you.
> >
> >Oh, and BTW - you don't get "convicted" in civil court, you troll!  
>Either
> >they find for the plaintiff or they find for the respondent; being
> >"convicted" means you spend time in jail or on probation and have a 
>record.
> >Surely, a college man such as yourself should know the difference.  
>Mayhap
> >Sunil can explain it to you.
> >
> >
> >
> >J  :]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Donovan Arnold
> > >To: J Ford
> >, vision2020 at moscow.com
> > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] USATODAY.com - Courts are asked
> > >tocrackdownonbloggers, websites
> > >Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 22:32:10 -0700 (PDT)
> > >
> > >J,
> > >
> > >  If it were my property you destroyed, you bet I would  call them J. I
> > >think there is more than enough circumstantial  evidence against you J
> >for
> > >a conviction in a civil court, as is  what a county officer told me in 
>a
> > >private conversation. In a criminal  court, it would a bit harder. But
> >when
> > >eight people (that I know of)  you have known to have strong public
> > >disagreements with end up with  false complaints filed against them and
> > >damaged property, it doesn't  bode well for you. Especially when you
> >don't
> > >work and have lots of  time, have been caught on people's private
> >property
> > >taking pictures,  and have no less than 200 emails slandering them
> > >personally on a public  forum.
> > >
> > >
> > >   Best,
> > >
> > >   _DJA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >J Ford
> >  wrote:  Go for it you lousy little weasel!
> > >  The MPD phone number is on the tip of
> > >your tongue - use it!  Just be sure you got the cahoonas to withstand 
>the
> > >consequences.
> > >
> > >J  :]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Donovan Arnold
> > > >To: J Ford
> > >, vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] USATODAY.com - Courts are asked
> > > >tocrackdownonbloggers, websites
> > > >Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 21:47:05 -0700 (PDT)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >"Better yet, go for a long walk on a short pier and make my day!"
> > > >J
> > > >
> > > >Wow J! That was a great line. That is funny. Did you just
> > > >come up with that all by yourself? That's so fresh and timely.
> > > >Got any jokes about the Czar of Russia and the Bolshevik Revolution
> > >before
> > > >that expires?
> > > >
> > > >Evidence? Yeap, got evidence. Plenty. Be careful what you wish for.
> > > >
> > > >Best,
> > > >
> > > >_DJA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >J Ford
> > >  wrote:  Well, by golly - ya got me, DJA!
> > > >I must confess, I confess.  You are
> > > >right...I DO own a camera.  Well, to be truthful, I own several - 
>some
> >of
> > > >them are even antiques.
> > > >
> > > >BUT NOT ONE OF THEM HAVE EVER BEEN USED TO STALK PEOPLE OR THEIR
> > >CHILDREN.
> > > >
> > > >You or anyone else that has ANY proof to contrary, might I suggest 
>you
> > > >prove
> > > >it or shut the h**l up!  I have never, THAT'S NEVER, damaged anyone's
> > > >property nor have I EVER made any "anonymous phone  call(s) to
> >government
> > > >authorities making false claims".  Again, you got proof, I mean hard
> > >core,
> > > >in paper, in video, etc. type of proof and I am sure people would be
> > > >interested.  Since you do not 'cause I have NEVER DONE ANY OF THOSE
> > >THINGS,
> > > >shut up!
> > > >
> > > >Better yet, go for a long walk on a short pier and make my day!
> > > >
> > > >J  :]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: Donovan Arnold
> > > > >To: J Ford
> > > >, vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] USATODAY.com - Courts are asked to
> > > > >crackdownonbloggers, websites
> > > > >Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 20:21:32 -0700 (PDT)
> > > > >
> > > > >J,
> > > > >
> > > > >  I don't recall having any time to stalk people as I  think you 
>seem
> > >to
> > > > >have J, as I have worked two jobs and go to  school full time. I
> >would
> > > >also
> > > > >think that it would be smart to at least  own a camera too if I was
> > >into
> > > > >stalking. Got one I can borrow J?  But nonetheless, if you think 
>so,
> >go
> > > >for
> > > > >it J.
> > > > >
> > > > >  Say  J, how come so many people that you publicly voice
> >indifference
> > >to
> > > > >shortly there after end up with damaged property or an anonymous
> >phone
> > > > >call to government authorities making false claims against them? Is
> > >that
> > > > >just a coincidence?
> > > > >
> > > > >    Best,
> > > > >
> > > > >   _DJA
> > > > >
> > > > >J Ford
> > > >  wrote:  And the people YOU have harassed
> > > > >and stalked just this past year...should we
> > > > >get in on that "sue-em-dano" train, too?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >J  :]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: Donovan Arnold
> > > > > >To: J Ford
> > > > >, vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > > > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] USATODAY.com - Courts are asked to 
>crack
> > > > > >downonbloggers, websites
> > > > > >Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 19:30:28 -0700 (PDT)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I for one think Doug Wilson should sue the crap out of all the
> >people
> > > > >that
> > > > > >have been harassing him over the last five years. I think it will
> > > >bring
> > > > > >some closure to people that harass not only him, but the entire
> > > > >population
> > > > > >of the Palouse about him and anyone that knows him.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   I am not a follower of Doug Wilson. But I wish him the best in
> > > > > >defending himself against some of these people that just go way
> > > > >overboard
> > > > > >and violate his rights in their efforts to try and prove  
>something
> > >we
> > > > >just
> > > > > >don't care about.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   Best,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   _DJA
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >J Ford
> > > > >  wrote:  We best be watching the County
> > > > > >logs for this one to come up soon, then.  I
> > > > > >am sure since the MPD did not respond favorably to Dougie-BOY's
> > >attempt
> > > > >to
> > > > > >harass people, he will try this tact.  And since Greggy is no
> >longer
> > > >his
> > > > > >pet
> > > > > >attorney, available at his every beck and call, I am just as sure
> > > > > >Dougie-BOY
> > > > > >will be hiring some out-of-town-big-wig lawyer to handle the 
>case.
> > > > >Which,
> > > > > >come to think of it, would make sense even if Greggy weren't into
> > >"real
> > > > > >estate" these days...considering he can't handle the "bigger" 
>cases
> > > > >anyway
> > > > > >and Dougie- BOY proves his lack of confidence in Greggy when it
> >comes
> > > >to
> > > > > >such cases.  Just look at the Sitler and Jamin cases - wasn't
> >Greggy
> > > >who
> > > > > >was
> > > > > >called on to take those for the church, now was it?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Sorry, Greggy....no vote of confidence for you from the big guy.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >J  :]
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >From: "Michael"
> > > > > > >To:
> > > > > > >Subject: [Vision2020] USATODAY.com - Courts are asked to crack
> >down
> > > > > > >onbloggers, websites
> > > > > > >Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 09:51:23 -0700
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >For those of you not aware, the front page of USA Today 
>mentions
> > >the
> > > > >law
> > > > > > >suit against my friend Frank Vance; I figured some of you might
> >be
> > > > > > >interested since Doug Wilson helped make all this happen (Vance
> >was
> > > > >first
> > > > > > >pursuing in part Wilson's dishonest cover up of Ligonier
> > >Ministrie's
> > > >RC
> > > > > > >Sproul Jr, Wilson's buddy who was defrocked in part for deceit
> >and
> > > > > >pastoral
> > > > > > >abuse.).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Here's the link:
> > > > > >
> > > >http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20061003/1a_cover03.art.htm
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >"Ligonier Ministries, a religious broadcaster and publisher in
> >Lake
> > > > >Mary,
> > > > > > >Fla., has taken the unusual step of asking a judge to
> >pre-emptively
> > > > > >silence
> > > > > > >a blogger to try to prevent him from criticizing the 
>ministries.
> > > >Judges
> > > > > > >historically have refused to place such limits on traditional
> > > > >publishers.
> > > > > > >The lawsuit cites postings on a blog by Frank Vance that
> >described
> > > > > >Ligonier
> > > > > > >president Timothy Dick as "a shark" and as coming from a 
>"family
> >of
> > > > > > >nincompoops." The suit says the entries are false and have
> >damaged
> > > > >Dick's
> > > > > > >reputation."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Wilson is now on record claiming there is no reason to think
> >there
> > >is
> > > > > > >anything wrong with such a law suit (ahem).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Michael Metzler
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >www.poohsthink.com
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