[Vision2020] Two cited for shooting fireworks off Perch roof

[Gary Crabtree]

Lets thrown in the pesky fact that the people who are trying to make a go
of the perch don't own the building and that there is an apartment that
comprises the second floor of the structure that is distinctly separate
from the business.

g​

On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Saundra Lund <v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm>
wrote:

>  Just because a trespass happens doesn't mean charges would automatically
> be filed.  A lot of people I know are/would be content to have trespassers
> warned rather than dragged into an already-overwhelmed criminal justice
> system.  Personally, many years back when the grass outside my infant
> daughter's bedroom was set alight by illegal fireworks, I was happy to just
> have the cops give a warning and shut the rotten behavior down for the
> night.  I surely didn't want my neighbors turned into the courts for a
> stupid mistake in judgment, and I think the experience of having their
> illegal fireworks actually cause damage was a good learning experience for
> them.
>
> Just Sayin' & YMMV,
>
> Saundra
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2015, at 08:35 AM, Tom Hansen wrote:
>
> The only evidence suggesting that consent was given, Mr. Ramalingam, is
> the fact that the two perpetrators were NOT cited for trespass.
>
> If I were to set off fireworks from the roof of your residence, one of the
> first actions the police would take would be to contact you . . . to inform
> you that someone has trespassed on your property.  That's a crime, Mr.
> Ramalingam.
>
> Otherwise, one can hardly imagine to what level of activity Independence
> Day fireworks parties would degenerate.
>
> 'Nuff said.
>
> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
>
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
> http://www.MoscowCares.com <http://www.moscowcares.com/>
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still.
> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>
> - John Lennon
>
> On Jul 28, 2015, at 8:22 AM, Sunil <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Tom,
>
> Do you have any proof there was consent? Not the lack of a trespassing
> charge, but proof of consent? Do you have proof that the owner said 'Go
> ahead and fire off fireworks from my roof?'
>
> No, I don't think you do. You don't like it when a local minister accused
> you of misconduct without any proof, and you shouldn't like it. But aren't
> you doing the same yourself?
>
> Sunil
>
> ------------------------------
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Two cited for shooting fireworks off Perch roof
> From: thansen at moscow.com
> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 08:06:34 -0700
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> To: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
>
> As you state, Mr. Ramalingam . . . "If they were trespassing on the
> property . . . " . . . they would have been cited for trespass . . . unless
> (of course) they had property-owner consent, huh?
>
> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
>
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
> http://www.MoscowCares.com <http://www.moscowcares.com/>
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still.
> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>
> - John Lennon
>
> On Jul 28, 2015, at 7:58 AM, Sunil <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> No Tom, I don't see the implications. If they were trespassing on the
> property, what are the implications? Nothing in the story suggests the
> owner of the business had anything to do with the incident.
>
> Since you see implications, and think I should too, please enlighten me.
>
> Sunil
>
> ------------------------------
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Two cited for shooting fireworks off Perch roof
> From: thansen at moscow.com
> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 07:36:27 -0700
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> To: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
>
> They were on Perch property, Mr. Ramalingam.
>
> I am sure that, as an attorney, you understand the implications . . .
> especially the next time the City meets to discuss Perch's application.
>
> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
>
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
> http://www.MoscowCares.com <http://www.moscowcares.com/>
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still.
> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>
> - John Lennon
>
> On Jul 28, 2015, at 7:16 AM, Sunil <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Was there any evidence to show the owner of the business was involved or
> endorsed this activity?
>
> Sunil
>
> ------------------------------
> From: thansen at moscow.com
> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 07:00:48 -0700
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: [Vision2020] Two cited for shooting fireworks off Perch roof
>
>
> Courtesy of today's (July 28, 2015) Moscow-Pullman Daily News.
>
> ---------------------------------------
>
> Brief: Two cited for shooting fireworks off Perch roof
>
> Police cited two individuals around 4:30 a.m. Sunday morning after the men
> were allegedly found shooting fireworks off the roof of The Perch near the
> University of Idaho campus.
>
> Moscow Police Chief David Duke said the men, ages 23 and 25, had both been
> warned for fireworks use on the Fourth of July.
>
> ---------------------------------------
>
> Just think . . .
>
> The owner of the Perch is requesting approval from the City of Moscow to
> be able to sell beer and wine for on-site consumption at the restaurant.
>
> http://www.moscowcares.com/Admin_030915_PerchReqBeerWineLicense.htm
>
> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
>
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
> http://www.MoscowCares.com <http://www.moscowcares.com/>
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still.
> But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,
> If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
>
> - John Lennon
>
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