[Vision2020] Two cited for shooting fireworks off Perch roof

Tue Jul 28 12:55:33 PDT 2015

Just because a trespass happens doesn't mean charges would automatically
be filed.  A lot of people I know are/would be content to have
trespassers warned rather than dragged into an already-overwhelmed
criminal justice system.  Personally, many years back when the grass
outside my infant daughter's bedroom was set alight by illegal
fireworks, I was happy to just have the cops give a warning and shut the
rotten behavior down for the night.  I surely didn't want my neighbors
turned into the courts for a stupid mistake in judgment, and I think the
experience of having their illegal fireworks actually cause damage was a
good learning experience for them.

Just Sayin' & YMMV,

Saundra

On Tue, Jul 28, 2015, at 08:35 AM, Tom Hansen wrote:
> The only evidence suggesting that consent was given, Mr. Ramalingam,
> is the fact that the two perpetrators were NOT cited for trespass.
>
> If I were to set off fireworks from the roof of your residence, one of
> the first actions the police would take would be to contact you . . .
> to inform you that someone has trespassed on your property.  That's a
> crime, Mr. Ramalingam.
>
> Otherwise, one can hardly imagine to what level of activity
> Independence Day fireworks parties would degenerate.
>
> 'Nuff said.
>
> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
>
> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
> http://www.MoscowCares.com[1]
>
> Tom Hansen Moscow, Idaho
>
> "There's room at the top they are telling you still. But first you
> must learn how to smile as you kill, If you want to be like the folks
> on the hill."
>
> - John Lennon
>
> On Jul 28, 2015, at 8:22 AM, Sunil
> <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Tom,
>>
>> Do you have any proof there was consent? Not the lack of a
>> trespassing charge, but proof of consent? Do you have proof that the
>> owner said 'Go ahead and fire off fireworks from my roof?'
>>
>> No, I don't think you do. You don't like it when a local minister
>> accused you of misconduct without any proof, and you shouldn't like
>> it. But aren't you doing the same yourself?
>>
>> Sunil
>>
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Two cited for shooting fireworks off Perch
>> roof From: thansen at moscow.com Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 08:06:34 -0700
>> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com To: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
>>
>> As you state, Mr. Ramalingam . . . "If they were trespassing on the
>> property . . . " . . . they would have been cited for trespass . . .
>> unless (of course) they had property-owner consent, huh?
>>
>> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
>>
>> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
>> http://www.MoscowCares.com[2]
>>
>> Tom Hansen Moscow, Idaho
>>
>> "There's room at the top they are telling you still. But first you
>> must learn how to smile as you kill, If you want to be like the folks
>> on the hill."
>>
>> - John Lennon
>>
>> On Jul 28, 2015, at 7:58 AM, Sunil
>> <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> No Tom, I don't see the implications. If they were trespassing on
>>> the property, what are the implications? Nothing in the story
>>> suggests the owner of the business had anything to do with the
>>> incident.
>>>
>>> Since you see implications, and think I should too, please
>>> enlighten me.
>>>
>>> Sunil
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Two cited for shooting fireworks off Perch
>>> roof From: thansen at moscow.com Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 07:36:27 -0700
>>> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com To: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
>>>
>>> They were on Perch property, Mr. Ramalingam.
>>>
>>> I am sure that, as an attorney, you understand the implications . .
>>> . especially the next time the City meets to discuss Perch's
>>> application.
>>>
>>> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
>>>
>>> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
>>> http://www.MoscowCares.com[3]
>>>
>>> Tom Hansen Moscow, Idaho
>>>
>>> "There's room at the top they are telling you still. But first you
>>> must learn how to smile as you kill, If you want to be like the
>>> folks on the hill."
>>>
>>> - John Lennon
>>>
>>> On Jul 28, 2015, at 7:16 AM, Sunil <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Was there any evidence to show the owner of the business was
>>>> involved or endorsed this activity?
>>>>
>>>> Sunil
>>>>
>>>> From: thansen at moscow.com Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 07:00:48 -0700 To:
>>>> vision2020 at moscow.com Subject: [Vision2020] Two cited for shooting
>>>> fireworks off Perch roof
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Courtesy of today's (July 28, 2015) Moscow-Pullman Daily News.
>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Brief: Two cited for shooting fireworks off Perch roof

>>>> Police cited two individuals around 4:30 a.m. Sunday morning after
>>>> the men were allegedly found shooting fireworks off the roof of The
>>>> Perch near the University of Idaho campus.

>>>> Moscow Police Chief David Duke said the men, ages 23 and 25, had
>>>> both been warned for fireworks use on the Fourth of July.

>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Just think . . .
>>>>
>>>> The owner of the Perch is requesting approval from the City of
>>>> Moscow to be able to sell beer and wine for on-site consumption at
>>>> the restaurant.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.moscowcares.com/Admin_030915_PerchReqBeerWineLicense.htm
>>>>
>>>> Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
>>>>
>>>> "Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
>>>> http://www.MoscowCares.com[4]
>>>>
>>>> Tom Hansen Moscow, Idaho
>>>>
>>>> "There's room at the top they are telling you still. But first you
>>>> must learn how to smile as you kill, If you want to be like the
>>>> folks on the hill."
>>>>
>>>> - John Lennon
>>>>
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