[Vision2020] Two cited for shooting fireworks off Perch roof

Tue Jul 28 18:38:06 PDT 2015

Gary you Nincompoop,

Please don't confuse anyone with facts, they might get in the way of the slurring.

Sunil

Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 18:31:04 -0700
From: moscowlocksmith at gmail.com
To: v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Two cited for shooting fireworks off Perch roof

Lets thrown in the pesky fact that the people who are trying to make a go of the perch don't own the building and that there is an apartment that comprises the second floor of the structure that is distinctly separate from the business.
g
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Saundra Lund <v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm> wrote:

Just because a trespass happens doesn't mean charges would automatically be filed.  A lot of people I know are/would be content to have trespassers warned rather than dragged into an already-overwhelmed criminal justice system.  Personally, many years back when the grass outside my infant daughter's bedroom was set alight by illegal fireworks, I was happy to just have the cops give a warning and shut the rotten behavior down for the night.  I surely didn't want my neighbors turned into the courts for a stupid mistake in judgment, and I think the experience of having their illegal fireworks actually cause damage was a good learning experience for them.

Just Sayin' & YMMV,

Saundra

On Tue, Jul 28, 2015, at 08:35 AM, Tom Hansen wrote:

The only evidence suggesting that consent was given, Mr. Ramalingam, is the fact that the two perpetrators were NOT cited for trespass.

If I were to set off fireworks from the roof of your residence, one of the first actions the police would take would be to contact you . . . to inform you that someone has trespassed on your property.  That's a crime, Mr. Ramalingam.

Otherwise, one can hardly imagine to what level of activity Independence Day fireworks parties would degenerate.

'Nuff said.

Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .

"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)

http://www.MoscowCares.com

Tom Hansen

Moscow, Idaho

"There's room at the top they are telling you still.

But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,

If you want to be like the folks on the hill."

- John Lennon

On Jul 28, 2015, at 8:22 AM, Sunil <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> wrote:

Tom,

Do you have any proof there was consent? Not the lack of a trespassing charge, but proof of consent? Do you have proof that the owner said 'Go ahead and fire off fireworks from my roof?'

No, I don't think you do. You don't like it when a local minister accused you of misconduct without any proof, and you shouldn't like it. But aren't you doing the same yourself?

Sunil

Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Two cited for shooting fireworks off Perch roof

From: thansen at moscow.com

Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 08:06:34 -0700

CC: vision2020 at moscow.com

To: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com

As you state, Mr. Ramalingam . . . "If they were trespassing on the property . . . " . . . they would have been cited for trespass . . . unless (of course) they had property-owner consent, huh?

Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .

"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)

http://www.MoscowCares.com

Tom Hansen

Moscow, Idaho

"There's room at the top they are telling you still.

But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,

If you want to be like the folks on the hill."

- John Lennon

On Jul 28, 2015, at 7:58 AM, Sunil <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> wrote:

No Tom, I don't see the implications. If they were trespassing on the property, what are the implications? Nothing in the story suggests the owner of the business had anything to do with the incident. 

Since you see implications, and think I should too, please enlighten me.

Sunil

Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Two cited for shooting fireworks off Perch roof

From: thansen at moscow.com

Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 07:36:27 -0700

CC: vision2020 at moscow.com

To: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com

They were on Perch property, Mr. Ramalingam.

I am sure that, as an attorney, you understand the implications . . . especially the next time the City meets to discuss Perch's application.

Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .

"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)

http://www.MoscowCares.com

Tom Hansen

Moscow, Idaho

"There's room at the top they are telling you still.

But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,

If you want to be like the folks on the hill."

- John Lennon

On Jul 28, 2015, at 7:16 AM, Sunil <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> wrote:

Was there any evidence to show the owner of the business was involved or endorsed this activity? 

Sunil

From: thansen at moscow.com

Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 07:00:48 -0700

To: vision2020 at moscow.com

Subject: [Vision2020] Two cited for shooting fireworks off Perch roof

Courtesy of today's (July 28, 2015) Moscow-Pullman Daily News.

---------------------------------------

Brief: Two cited for shooting fireworks off Perch roof
Police cited two individuals around 4:30 a.m. Sunday morning after the men were allegedly found shooting fireworks off the roof of The Perch near the University of Idaho campus.
Moscow Police Chief David Duke said the men, ages 23 and 25, had both been warned for fireworks use on the Fourth of July.

---------------------------------------

Just think . . . 

The owner of the Perch is requesting approval from the City of Moscow to be able to sell beer and wine for on-site consumption at the restaurant. 

http://www.moscowcares.com/Admin_030915_PerchReqBeerWineLicense.htm

Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .

"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)

http://www.MoscowCares.com

Tom Hansen

Moscow, Idaho

"There's room at the top they are telling you still.

But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,

If you want to be like the folks on the hill."

- John Lennon

=======================================================
 List services made available by First Step Internet,
 serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.
               http://www.fsr.net mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com
=======================================================

=======================================================

 List services made available by First Step Internet,

 serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.

http://www.fsr.net

mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com

=======================================================

=======================================================

 List services made available by First Step Internet,

 serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.

http://www.fsr.net

mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com

=======================================================

=======================================================

 List services made available by First Step Internet,

 serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.

http://www.fsr.net

mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com

=======================================================

=======================================================

List services made available by First Step Internet,

serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.

http://www.fsr.net

mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com

=======================================================

=======================================================

 List services made available by First Step Internet,

 serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.

               http://www.fsr.net

          mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com

=======================================================

=======================================================
 List services made available by First Step Internet,
 serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.
               http://www.fsr.net
          mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com
======================================================= 		 	   		  
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/attachments/20150728/054bfba6/attachment-0001.html>