<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Lets thrown in the pesky fact that the people who are trying to make a go of the perch don't own the building and that there is an apartment that comprises the second floor of the structure that is distinctly separate from the business.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">g</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Saundra Lund <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm" target="_blank">v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
<div><div>Just because a trespass happens doesn't mean charges would automatically be filed. A lot of people I know are/would be content to have trespassers warned rather than dragged into an already-overwhelmed criminal justice system. Personally, many years back when the grass outside my infant daughter's bedroom was set alight by illegal fireworks, I was happy to just have the cops give a warning and shut the rotten behavior down for the night. I surely didn't want my neighbors turned into the courts for a stupid mistake in judgment, and I think the experience of having their illegal fireworks actually cause damage was a good learning experience for them.<br></div>
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<div>Just Sayin' & YMMV,<br></div>
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<div>Saundra<br></div>
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<div>On Tue, Jul 28, 2015, at 08:35 AM, Tom Hansen wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote type="cite"><div>The only evidence suggesting that consent was given, Mr. Ramalingam, is the fact that the two perpetrators were NOT cited for trespass.<br></div>
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<div>If I were to set off fireworks from the roof of your residence, one of the first actions the police would take would be to contact you . . . to inform you that someone has trespassed on your property. That's a crime, Mr. Ramalingam.<br></div>
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<div>Otherwise, one can hardly imagine to what level of activity Independence Day fireworks parties would degenerate.<br></div>
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<div><div>'Nuff said.<br></div>
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<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</span><br></div>
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<div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Tom Hansen</span><br></div>
<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Moscow, Idaho</span><br></div>
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<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">"There's room at the top they are telling you still.</span><br></div>
<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,</span><br></div>
<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span><br></div>
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<div>On Jul 28, 2015, at 8:22 AM, Sunil <<a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" target="_blank">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div>
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<blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Tom,<br></div>
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<div>Do you have any proof there was consent? Not the lack of a trespassing charge, but proof of consent? Do you have proof that the owner said 'Go ahead and fire off fireworks from my roof?'<br></div>
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<div>No, I don't think you do. You don't like it when a local minister accused you of misconduct without any proof, and you shouldn't like it. But aren't you doing the same yourself?<br></div>
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<div>Sunil<br></div>
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<div><div><hr>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Two cited for shooting fireworks off Perch roof<br></div>
<div>From: <a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a><br></div>
<div>Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 08:06:34 -0700<br></div>
<div>CC: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br></div>
<div>To: <a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" target="_blank">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a><br></div>
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<div><div>As you state, Mr. Ramalingam . . . "If they were trespassing on the property . . . " . . . they would have been cited for trespass . . . unless (of course) they had property-owner consent, huh?<br></div>
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<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</span><br></div>
<div> </div>
<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</span><br></div>
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<div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Tom Hansen</span><br></div>
<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Moscow, Idaho</span><br></div>
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<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">"There's room at the top they are telling you still.</span><br></div>
<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,</span><br></div>
<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span><br></div>
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<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">- John Lennon</span><br></div>
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<div>On Jul 28, 2015, at 7:58 AM, Sunil <<a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" target="_blank">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div>
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<blockquote><div><div dir="ltr"><div>No Tom, I don't see the implications. If they were trespassing on the property, what are the implications? Nothing in the story suggests the owner of the business had anything to do with the incident. <br></div>
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<div>Since you see implications, and think I should too, please enlighten me.<br></div>
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<div>Sunil<br></div>
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<div><div><hr>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Two cited for shooting fireworks off Perch roof<br></div>
<div>From: <a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a><br></div>
<div>Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 07:36:27 -0700<br></div>
<div>CC: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br></div>
<div>To: <a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" target="_blank">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a><br></div>
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<div>They were on Perch property, Mr. Ramalingam.<br></div>
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<div>I am sure that, as an attorney, you understand the implications . . . especially the next time the City meets to discuss Perch's application.<br></div>
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<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</span><br></div>
<div> </div>
<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</span><br></div>
<div><a style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)" href="http://www.moscowcares.com/" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">http://www.MoscowCares.com</span></a><br></div>
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<div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Tom Hansen</span><br></div>
<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Moscow, Idaho</span><br></div>
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<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">"There's room at the top they are telling you still.</span><br></div>
<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,</span><br></div>
<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span><br></div>
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<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">- John Lennon</span><br></div>
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<div>On Jul 28, 2015, at 7:16 AM, Sunil <<a href="mailto:sunilramalingam@hotmail.com" target="_blank">sunilramalingam@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div>
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<blockquote><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Was there any evidence to show the owner of the business was involved or endorsed this activity? <br></div>
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<div>Sunil<br></div>
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<div><div><hr>From: <a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target="_blank">thansen@moscow.com</a><br></div>
<div>Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 07:00:48 -0700<br></div>
<div>To: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br></div>
<div>Subject: [Vision2020] Two cited for shooting fireworks off Perch roof<br></div>
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<div><div>Courtesy of today's (July 28, 2015) Moscow-Pullman Daily News.<br></div>
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<div><h1 style="padding:0px;line-height:34px;font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:30px;font-weight:400"><span style="color:rgb(204,0,0)"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Brief: Two cited for shooting fireworks off Perch roof</span></span><br></h1><p style="padding:0px;background-image:none"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Police cited two individuals around 4:30 a.m. Sunday morning after the men were allegedly found shooting fireworks off the roof of The Perch near the University of Idaho campus.</span><br></p><p style="padding:0px;background-image:none"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Moscow Police Chief David Duke said the men, ages 23 and 25, had both been warned for fireworks use on the Fourth of July.</span><br></p></div>
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<div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Just think . . . </span><br></div>
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<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><span style="text-align:justify">The owner of the Perch is requesting approval from the City of Moscow to be able to sell beer and wine for on-site consumption at the restaurant. </span></span><br></div>
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<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><a href="http://www.moscowcares.com/Admin_030915_PerchReqBeerWineLicense.htm" target="_blank">http://www.moscowcares.com/Admin_030915_PerchReqBeerWineLicense.htm</a></span><br></div>
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<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .</span><br></div>
<div> </div>
<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)</span><br></div>
<div><a style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)" href="http://www.moscowcares.com/" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">http://www.MoscowCares.com</span></a><br></div>
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<div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Tom Hansen</span><br></div>
<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Moscow, Idaho</span><br></div>
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<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">"There's room at the top they are telling you still.</span><br></div>
<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,</span><br></div>
<div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">If you want to be like the folks on the hill."</span><br></div>
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