[Vision2020] more guns on campus

[Sunil]

Gary,

Why so much faith in the retired law enforcement officers? Sure, call this an outlier, but here it is anyway:

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/retired-cop-florida-cinema-shooting-staying-jail-n24646

And the enhanced course will make someone proficient in a firefight? How do I know that's laughable? I could get one! The class I took was at least eight hours. It was years ago so I don't recall if I fired 98 rounds, but I'm sure I was over 50. And that sure didn't prepare me for a firefight.

Maybe if 40+ hours, something like Gunsite offers, the enhanced permit might mean something. But this current requirement is laughable.

Sunil

Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 16:02:39 -0700
From: moscowlocksmith at gmail.com
To: thansen at moscow.com
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com; rhayes at frontier.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] more guns on campus

An incident committed by a retired law enforcement officer or the holder of a valid enhanced Idaho state CWP as per the change in the law? I'm willing to bet long odds on not any time soon (if ever)

g

On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:

Jus' for the heck of it . . . 
How many gun-related incidents have there been on the University of Idaho campus in the past ten years?  Twenty years?  Fifty Years?  One hundred years? 

Next question . . .
How long will it be until there is a gun-related incident on the University of Idaho campus?
Start your watches, V-Peeps.


Seeya 'round town, Moscow, because . . .
"Moscow Cares" (the most fun you can have with your pants on)
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Tom HansenMoscow, Idaho

"There's room at the top they are telling you still.But first you must learn how to smile as you kill,
If you want to be like the folks on the hill."
- John Lennon
  
On Mar 27, 2014, at 2:25 PM, Gary Crabtree <moscowlocksmith at gmail.com> wrote:


Why was the law forbidding concealed firearms on campus so much more effective in protecting your "dh" that the much more stringent law that forbids shooting others without an extremely good reason. The person who will obey the first will almost certainly obey the second. The one that disregards the second will laugh at the first.


g

On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Saundra Lund <v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm> wrote:



I know of a couple of professors who were here interviewing for a position around the time Otter signed the bill and both were absolutely aghast.  Both subsequently declined the position.  Was it because of the guns on campus debacle?  Who knows, but that certainly did not help based on the reactions.

 My dh is considering no longer meeting in person with students in his office once this goes into effect – they can contact him via phone or email during his office hours.  You know how those Idaho legislators think they deserve special treatment because they sometimes have to deal with hostile constituents therefore they don’t need no stinking permits?  I have no sympathy for them given their absolute love of Red Meat politics, but they have nothing on professors who have to deal with unhinged students certain that a poor grade on an assignment is going to ruin their career opportunities for the rest of their lives, etc.

 He’s half-joking, but I’m not.  I’m glad he’ll be retiring sooner rather than later.

 Great job, Idaho, of finding new creative ways of killing education – those of you who worship at the 2A alter must be so proud.

 Disgusting.

  

Saundra 

From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of rhayes at frontier.com


Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 8:30 AM
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: [Vision2020] more guns on campus

 I was speaking with some of my professor friends yesterday. I asked, "If you are allowed to make classroom rules such as no cell phones, no computer games, no eating, how is it that you won't be able to say "no guns in my classroom?" I suggested going to the union and having a statewide walkout. Instead, two of these friends, who are extremely capable and long term professors said they are applying for posts in other states. For them, this is the straw (disrespect) that is breaking the camel's back.

 

 


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