Scott,
You've suggested before that you weren't very concerned about the NSA revelations because we have constitutional protections that would prevent illegally obtained evidence from being used against us. (Yes, I'm paraphrasing, but I believe that was the gist of your position. Please correct as necessary.) Anyway, I'm wondering if you saw this story when it came out last month:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/08/us-dea-irs-idUSBRE9761AZ20130808
The DEA has lied in cases and created a false story about how it obtained evidence, hiding how they actually, illegally obtained information.
How are we to depend on our constitutional protections if the government does this?
Sunil
From: scooterd408 at hotmail.com
To: godshatter at yahoo.com; rforce2003 at yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 22:17:59 -0600
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] N.S.A. Foils Much Internet Encryption
I recall several years ago Paul Harvey had a story about a free ware program called PGP which stood for Pretty Good Protection that government didn't like because they couldn't easily crack it and it violated some national security law (ironic isn't it?). I think it would be difficult for anyone or any group to stymie the NSA on this front. They just have too many resources and employ too many sharp cookies that thrive on decrypting the most difficult and world class encryption schemes. The best bet might be to just try and fall back on whatever Constitutional protections are available such as the 4th Amendment. That might help from being criminally convicted of wrong doing, but wouldn't necessarily protect against private information becoming public.
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 18:58:52 -0700
From: godshatter at yahoo.com
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Subject: Re: [Vision2020] N.S.A. Foils Much Internet Encryption
You've hit the nail on the head. Nobody cares. That's exactly
the problem. Well done, sir.
Paul
On 09/05/2013 05:08 PM, Ron Force wrote:
This one?
Ron Force
Moscow Idaho USA
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It'll be obvious by whatever
cartoon is posted. 😊
Date: Thu,
5 Sep 2013 14:53:33 -0700
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vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] N.S.A. Foils Much
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I wonder if
Mr. Hansen still thinks I'm being paranoid
about my online privacy.
Paul
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Thursday,
September 5,
2013 3:05 PM EDT
N.S.A.
Foils Much Internet Encryption
The National Security
Agency is winning its
long-running secret war on
encryption, using
supercomputers, technical
trickery, court orders and
behind-the-scenes
persuasion to undermine
the major tools protecting
the privacy
of everyday communications
in the Internet age,
according to newly
disclosed
documents.
The agency has
circumvented or cracked
much of the encryption,
or digital scrambling,
that guards global
commerce and banking
systems, protects
sensitive data like trade
secrets and medical
records, and automatically
secures
the e-mails, Web searches,
Internet chats and phone
calls of Americans and
others around the world,
the documents show.
Many users
assume — or
have been assured by
Internet companies — that
their data is safe from
prying eyes, including
those of the government,
and the N.S.A. wants to
keep it
that way. The agency
treats its recent
successes in deciphering
protected
information as among its
most closely guarded
secrets, restricted to
those
cleared for a highly
classified program
code-named Bullrun,
according to the
documents, provided by
Edward J. Snowden, the
former N.S.A. contractor.
READ
MORE »
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/06/us/nsa-foils-much-internet-encryption.html?emc=edit_na_20130905
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