[Vision2020] N.S.A. Foils Much Internet Encryption
Donovan Arnold
donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
Fri Sep 6 13:14:05 PDT 2013
Sunil,
The best defense
against a lie is to always tell the truth. Anything you say or do online or
over a cell phone may be used against you in a court of law. There is a reason
the United States has the most people in prison, it doesn't care about
protections of the people. Everything is 100% about profit for a corporation.
Our politicians and legal system is just as corrupted and crooked as it has
ever been. Lawyers don't care about justice, and politicians don't care about
the people they were elected to protect and act in their trust. So,
really, it doesn't matter if evidence is obtained illegally or legally if the
rest of the legal and political system is also contaminated.
Lawyers need
to work for Justice, not a profit. Politicians need to work for the People, not
the Corporations. Because truly, without this, there will be no observance of
the Constitution and the protections of individual rights.
Donovan J. Arnold
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From: Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
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Cc: vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2013 6:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] N.S.A. Foils Much Internet Encryption
Scott,You've suggested before that you weren't very concerned about the NSA revelations because we have constitutional protections that would prevent illegally obtained evidence from being used against us. (Yes, I'm paraphrasing, but I believe that was the gist of your position. Please correct as necessary.) Anyway, I'm wondering if you saw this story when it came out last month:http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/08/us-dea-irs-idUSBRE9761AZ20130808The DEA has lied in cases and created a false story about how it obtained evidence, hiding how they actually, illegally obtained information.How are we to depend on our constitutional protections if the government does this?Sunil
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From: scooterd408 at hotmail.comTo: godshatter at yahoo.com; rforce2003 at yahoo.comDate: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 22:17:59 -0600CC: vision2020 at moscow.comSubject: Re: [Vision2020] N.S.A. Foils Much Internet Encryption
I recall several years ago Paul Harvey had a story about a free ware program called PGP which stood for Pretty Good Protection that government didn't like because they couldn't easily crack it and it violated some national security law (ironic isn't it?). I think it would be difficult for anyone or any group to stymie the NSA on this front. They just have too many resources and employ too many sharp cookies that thrive on decrypting the most difficult and world class encryption schemes. The best bet might be to just try and fall back on whatever Constitutional protections are available such as the 4th Amendment. That might help from being criminally convicted of wrong doing, but wouldn't necessarily protect against private information becoming public.
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Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 18:58:52 -0700From: godshatter at yahoo.comTo: rforce2003 at yahoo.comCC: vision2020 at moscow.comSubject: Re: [Vision2020] N.S.A. Foils Much Internet Encryption
You've hit the nail on the head. Nobody cares. That's exactly the problem. Well done, sir. Paul On 09/05/2013 05:08 PM, Ron Force wrote:
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>>It'll be obvious by whatever cartoon is posted.
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>>I wonder if Mr. Hansen still thinks I'm being paranoid about my online privacy. Paul
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>>BREAKING NEWS Thursday, September 5, 2013 3:05 PM EDT N.S.A. Foils Much Internet Encryption
>>The National Security Agency is winning its long-running secret war on encryption, using supercomputers, technical trickery, court orders and behind-the-scenes persuasion to undermine the major tools protecting the privacy of everyday communications in the Internet age, according to newly disclosed documents.
>>The agency has circumvented or cracked much of the encryption, or digital scrambling, that guards global commerce and banking systems, protects sensitive data like trade secrets and medical records, and automatically secures the e-mails, Web searches, Internet chats and phone calls of Americans and others around the world, the documents show.
>>Many users assume — or have been assured by Internet companies — that their data is safe from prying eyes, including those of the government, and the N.S.A. wants to keep it that way. The agency treats its recent successes in deciphering protected information as among its most closely guarded secrets, restricted to those cleared for a highly classified program code-named Bullrun, according to the documents, provided by Edward J. Snowden, the former N.S.A. contractor.
>>READ MORE » http://p.nytimes.com/email/re?location=4z5Q7LhI+KVBjmEgFdYACPLKh239P3pgcVRfbCz8BBZgQd4yzpEosN3MMbDsvZ+HfjrssVPdfVp5ezTj8xcY5dgGQfQYPhDAsj++infYz7aZe2s4ET/OyPpX/+8IElLzDcYCsw3LL/M=&campaign_id=132&instance_id=32000&segment_id=50109&user_id=2e59035bcefb20333e3669e05e7eef38®i_id=31802042 -- Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox) art.deco.studios at gmail.com ======================================================= List services made available by First Step Internet, serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. http://www.fsr.net/ mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com ======================================================= ======================================================= List services made available by First Step Internet, serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. http://www.fsr.net/ mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com =======================================================
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