I heard on CBS news this morning that there was some lawsuit against Google due to them scanning emails to mine keywords for ad targeting. They had a legal expert who thought the case was 'weak' due to gmail being a free service to users that was well known to be financed by ads. Signing up has a long list of legalize with an 'accept' button clicked by the user. Apparently the lawsuit is using the argument that incoming email is also scanned and that there was no consent necessarily by the sender.
I'd say 'brave new world' but technology has been advancing for many, many decades now with similar sorts of ethical / privacy issues at play.
-Scott
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 22:44:03 -0700
From: godshatter at yahoo.com
To: scooterd408 at hotmail.com
CC: rforce2003 at yahoo.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] N.S.A. Foils Much Internet Encryption
If I remember right, that was the whole Clipper chip fiasco. They
got denied on that one, they wanted a backdoor into all
encryption.
I'm sure that if I ever got on their radar, they could crack
whatever precautions I use, but why make it easy for them?
Besides, there are others out there to protect yourself against as
well. People trolling wifi connections for clear text passwords,
unscrupulous members of ISPs or any owners of any of the hardware
between me and my destination. It's best to be cautious, I
think. Various plugins for browsers are making it easier to surf
the web with some kind of protection without causing too many
issues. It's not as hard as it once was. I just wish email was
encrypted by default. That would help a lot.
Paul
On 09/05/2013 09:17 PM, Scott Dredge wrote:
I recall several years ago Paul Harvey had a story
about a free ware program called PGP which stood for Pretty Good
Protection that government didn't like because they couldn't
easily crack it and it violated some national security law
(ironic isn't it?). I think it would be difficult for anyone or
any group to stymie the NSA on this front. They just have too
many resources and employ too many sharp cookies that thrive on
decrypting the most difficult and world class encryption
schemes. The best bet might be to just try and fall back on
whatever Constitutional protections are available such as the
4th Amendment. That might help from being criminally convicted
of wrong doing, but wouldn't necessarily protect against private
information becoming public.
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 18:58:52 -0700
From: godshatter at yahoo.com
To: rforce2003 at yahoo.com
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] N.S.A. Foils Much Internet
Encryption
You've hit the nail on the head. Nobody cares. That's
exactly the problem. Well done, sir.
Paul
On 09/05/2013 05:08 PM, Ron Force wrote:
This one?
Ron Force
Moscow Idaho USA
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It'll be obvious by whatever
cartoon is posted. 😊
Date:
Thu, 5 Sep 2013 14:53:33 -0700
From: godshatter at yahoo.com
To: art.deco.studios at gmail.com;
vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] N.S.A. Foils
Much Internet Encryption
I wonder if Mr.
Hansen still thinks I'm being paranoid
about my online privacy.
Paul
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12:54 PM
Subject:
[Vision2020] N.S.A. Foils Much
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Thursday,
September 5,
2013 3:05 PM
EDT
N.S.A.
Foils Much Internet
Encryption
The
National Security
Agency is winning
its long-running
secret war on
encryption, using
supercomputers,
technical trickery,
court orders and
behind-the-scenes
persuasion to
undermine the major
tools protecting the
privacy of everyday
communications in
the Internet age,
according to newly
disclosed documents.
The
agency has
circumvented or
cracked much of the
encryption, or
digital scrambling,
that guards global
commerce and banking
systems, protects
sensitive data like
trade secrets and
medical records, and
automatically
secures the e-mails,
Web searches,
Internet chats and
phone calls of
Americans and others
around the world,
the documents show.
Many
users assume — or
have been assured by
Internet companies —
that their data is
safe from prying
eyes, including
those of the
government, and the
N.S.A. wants to keep
it that way. The
agency treats its
recent successes in
deciphering
protected
information as among
its most closely
guarded secrets,
restricted to those
cleared for a highly
classified program
code-named Bullrun,
according to the
documents, provided
by Edward J.
Snowden, the former
N.S.A. contractor.
READ
MORE »
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/06/us/nsa-foils-much-internet-encryption.html?emc=edit_na_20130905
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