[Vision2020] Case No. CV-2011-1234 (Germer Const., Inc. v. Greensides Inc, Wilson, Gray, and Hoffman)

Paul Rumelhart godshatter at yahoo.com
Mon Jun 25 18:57:04 PDT 2012


Why?

Paul

On 06/25/2012 06:49 PM, Tom Hansen wrote:
> I was not referring to a criminal complaint.
>
> There are two litigious "roads" in the Nifty Fifty (USA); one marked 
> "criminal" and one marked "civil".  Right, Sunil?
>
> To heck with it!  I am truly beginning to tire of your 6-year-old 
> antics of responding to every posted explanation with your infantile 
> "why".
>
> Seeya round town, Moscow.
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
> "If not us, who?
> If not now, when?"
>
> - Unknown
>
>
>
> On Jun 25, 2012, at 18:36, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com 
> <mailto:godshatter at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
>>
>> I never said I thought it was illegal, just not very nice.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On 06/25/2012 06:25 PM, Moscow Cares wrote:
>>> Mr. Rumelhart -
>>>
>>> You certainly spend an inordinate amount of time on. Topic of which 
>>> you claim that you have no interest.
>>>
>>> Furthermore, and FINALLY, if you feel that I am invading somebody's 
>>> privacy, I suggest that you grow the proverbial "pair" and file a 
>>> complaint.
>>>
>>> 'Till then, I suggest you buckle up and hold on . . .
>>>
>>> Seeya round town, Moscow.
>>>
>>> Tom Hansen
>>> Moscow, Idaho
>>>
>>> "If not us, who?
>>> If not now, when?"
>>>
>>> - Unknown
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 25, 2012, at 18:01, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com 
>>> <mailto:godshatter at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> You've spent a lot of time denigrating my character, yet I'm not 
>>>> the one posting someone's address on this list.  You've also spent 
>>>> a fair amount of time guessing my views on this subject, but have 
>>>> fallen far from the mark.  I don't have an opinion about this case, 
>>>> because it's simply a contract dispute.  You don't know who is 
>>>> right and who is wrong, and neither do I.  Nor do I really care.  I 
>>>> just don't like to see someone's address posted as a sly sort of 
>>>> "this is where he lives, if you want to talk to him, he's at this 
>>>> address".  People should be able to feel secure in their own homes 
>>>> without complete strangers confronting them about a private 
>>>> matter.  This used to be considered unethical on this site, but 
>>>> that appears to be true only when they aren't somehow connected to 
>>>> Doug.
>>>>
>>>> But, whatever.  It's been posted and the toothpaste can't be put 
>>>> back in the tube.  I'd just like to naively suggest that folks 
>>>> leave this guy in peace. People who don't belong to this lawsuit 
>>>> don't have any reason to confront this guy, and people involved in 
>>>> this lawsuit will hopefully have been briefed by their lawyer not 
>>>> to do so.
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>> On 06/25/2012 05:41 PM, Art Deco wrote:
>>>>> Well Paul, let's make a guess.  You have been taking instruction 
>>>>> from "regular guy" (and deadbeat) Douglas Wilson entitled "Logic 
>>>>> Without Imagination" or something similar.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just because someone would like a little face time with Hoffmann 
>>>>> does not mean they want to bully him or beat him up.  Of course 
>>>>> without imagination, it is difficult for you to think of other 
>>>>> alternatives.  You might try it as an exercise in Non-Wilsonian Logic.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also the lack of imagination traps into restricting the interested 
>>>>> parties to V2020 members.  That is not so by a long shot.  Items 
>>>>> from v2020 are frequently forwarded to non-members, and in 
>>>>> Hoffmann's case, probably some of this forwards go to Bend and 
>>>>> Redmond, Oregon.
>>>>>
>>>>> You appear to have either no enterprise values and/or completely 
>>>>> ignorant of the milieu of which the Germer deadbeat action is a 
>>>>> bit of.  I doubt that anyone on the list wishes to take the time 
>>>>> and effort to let you in on the big non-secrets given your past 
>>>>> actions as an ardent apologist for Wilson.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had thought that we would be chastised by Gary Crabtree, But so 
>>>>> far, not.  But whatever other views Crabtree may have, he is a 
>>>>> believer in enterprise and a businessman who provides and warrants 
>>>>> his goods and services and expects to be paid promptly for them. 
>>>>> Hence it is not unreasonable to assume that he also abhors 
>>>>> deadbeats.  It is highly probable that Crabtree also knows Larry 
>>>>> Germer and would not be adverse to hearing his side of the story 
>>>>> directly from him.
>>>>>
>>>>> w.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Paul Rumelhart 
>>>>> <godshatter at yahoo.com <mailto:godshatter at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     Glad to hear it.  What was your intent?
>>>>>
>>>>>     Paul
>>>>>
>>>>>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>     *From:* Moscow Cares <moscowcares at moscow.com
>>>>>     <mailto:moscowcares at moscow.com>>
>>>>>     *To:* Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com
>>>>>     <mailto:godshatter at yahoo.com>>
>>>>>     *Cc:* Art Deco <art.deco.studios at gmail.com
>>>>>     <mailto:art.deco.studios at gmail.com>>; "vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>>>     <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>" <vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>>>     <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>>
>>>>>     *Sent:* Monday, June 25, 2012 4:06 PM
>>>>>
>>>>>     *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Case No. CV-2011-1234 (Germer
>>>>>     Const., Inc. v. Greensides Inc, Wilson, Gray, and Hoffman)
>>>>>
>>>>>     I really don't feel it necessary to explain to Mr. Rumelhart
>>>>>     that my intention was neither bullying nor to encourage
>>>>>     physical confrontation.
>>>>>
>>>>>     'Nuff said.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Seeya round town, Moscow.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Tom Hansen
>>>>>     Moscow, Idaho
>>>>>
>>>>>     "If not us, who?
>>>>>     If not now, when?"
>>>>>
>>>>>     - Unknown
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     On Jun 25, 2012, at 15:57, Paul Rumelhart
>>>>>     <godshatter at yahoo.com <mailto:godshatter at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>     Is that why Mr. Hansen posted his address?  So people on this
>>>>>>     list could find him and confront him physically?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     No thank you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Let the courts work it out and leave the 5th grade bullying
>>>>>>     behind.  It's a private matter between two companies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     I swear, any mention of Doug Wilson or Christ Church and you
>>>>>>     guys leave your common sense locked in a drawer somewhere.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Paul
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>     *From:* Art Deco <art.deco.studios at gmail.com
>>>>>>     <mailto:art.deco.studios at gmail.com>>
>>>>>>     *To:* vision2020 at moscow.com <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>>>>>     *Sent:* Monday, June 25, 2012 3:39 PM
>>>>>>     *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Case No. CV-2011-1234 (Germer
>>>>>>     Const., Inc. v. Greensides Inc, Wilson, Gray, and Hoffman)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     @Paul:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Sorry to report neither the world nor v2020 revolves around
>>>>>>     you.  However, there is a strong probability that a number of
>>>>>>     people or their agents would like a little face time with
>>>>>>     Hoffman.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     w.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Tom Hansen
>>>>>>     <thansen at moscow.com <mailto:thansen at moscow.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Paul Rumelhart inquires:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         "Now that you've posted this gentleman's address on this
>>>>>>         list, what is it that you would like me to do with this
>>>>>>         information?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Can I tell him what to with it, Wayne?  Huh?  Can I?  Can I?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Seeya round town, Moscow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Tom Hansen
>>>>>>         Moscow, Idaho
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         "If not us, who?
>>>>>>         If not now, when?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         - Unknown
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         On Jun 25, 2012, at 14:01, Paul Rumelhart
>>>>>>         <godshatter at yahoo.com <mailto:godshatter at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Now that you've posted this gentleman's address on this
>>>>>>>         list, what is it that you would like me to do with this
>>>>>>>         information?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     -- 
>>>>>>     Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
>>>>>>     art.deco.studios at gmail.com <mailto:art.deco.studios at gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
>>>>> art.deco.studios at gmail.com <mailto:art.deco.studios at gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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