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      Why?<br>
      <br>
      Paul<br>
      <br>
      On 06/25/2012 06:49 PM, Tom Hansen wrote:<br>
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      cite="mid:379B092A-FA90-481D-8491-046E4BCB5B77@moscow.com"
      type="cite">
      <div>I was not referring to a criminal complaint.  </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>There are two litigious "roads" in the Nifty Fifty (USA); one
        marked "criminal" and one marked "civil".  Right, Sunil?</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>To heck with it!  I am truly beginning to tire of your
        6-year-old antics of responding to every posted explanation with
        your infantile "why".<br>
        <br>
        <div>Seeya round town, Moscow.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Tom Hansen</div>
        <div>Moscow, Idaho</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>"If not us, who?</div>
        <div>If not now, when?"</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>- Unknown</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div><br>
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      </div>
      <div><br>
        On Jun 25, 2012, at 18:36, Paul Rumelhart <<a
          moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>>
        wrote:<br>
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            I never said I thought it was illegal, just not very nice.<br>
            <br>
            Paul<br>
            <br>
            On 06/25/2012 06:25 PM, Moscow Cares wrote:<br>
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            cite="mid:53FDCC05-2743-4A53-B71A-F633F45A7493@moscow.com"
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            <div>Mr. Rumelhart -</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>You certainly spend an inordinate amount of time on.
              Topic of which you claim that you have no interest.</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Furthermore, and FINALLY, if you feel that I am
              invading somebody's privacy, I suggest that you grow the
              proverbial "pair" and file a complaint.</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>'Till then, I suggest you buckle up and hold on . . . <br>
              <br>
              <div>Seeya round town, Moscow.</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Tom Hansen</div>
              <div>Moscow, Idaho</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>"If not us, who?</div>
              <div>If not now, when?"</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>- Unknown</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div><br>
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            </div>
            <div><br>
              On Jun 25, 2012, at 18:01, Paul Rumelhart <<a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>>

              wrote:<br>
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                  You've spent a lot of time denigrating my character,
                  yet I'm not the one posting someone's address on this
                  list.  You've also spent a fair amount of time
                  guessing my views on this subject, but have fallen far
                  from the mark.  I don't have an opinion about this
                  case, because it's simply a contract dispute.  You
                  don't know who is right and who is wrong, and neither
                  do I.  Nor do I really care.  I just don't like to see
                  someone's address posted as a sly sort of "this is
                  where he lives, if you want to talk to him, he's at
                  this address".  People should be able to feel secure
                  in their own homes without complete strangers
                  confronting them about a private matter.  This used to
                  be considered unethical on this site, but that appears
                  to be true only when they aren't somehow connected to
                  Doug.<br>
                  <br>
                  But, whatever.  It's been posted and the toothpaste
                  can't be put back in the tube.  I'd just like to
                  naively suggest that folks leave this guy in peace. 
                  People who don't belong to this lawsuit don't have any
                  reason to confront this guy, and people involved in
                  this lawsuit will hopefully have been briefed by their
                  lawyer not to do so.<br>
                  <br>
                  Paul<br>
                  <br>
                  On 06/25/2012 05:41 PM, Art Deco wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAB8VJX5LnUB=6ZdCuixLQC6xAvRjJZKwPujSHaZinO30YCigmA@mail.gmail.com"
                  type="cite">Well Paul, let's make a guess.  You have
                  been taking instruction from "regular guy" (and
                  deadbeat) Douglas Wilson entitled "Logic Without
                  Imagination" or something similar.<br>
                  <br>
                  Just because someone would like a little face time
                  with Hoffmann does not mean they want to bully him or
                  beat him up.  Of course without imagination, it is
                  difficult for you to think of other alternatives.  You
                  might try it as an exercise in Non-Wilsonian Logic.<br>
                  <br>
                  Also the lack of imagination traps into restricting
                  the interested parties to V2020 members.  That is not
                  so by a long shot.  Items from v2020 are frequently
                  forwarded to non-members, and in Hoffmann's case,
                  probably some of this forwards go to Bend and Redmond,
                  Oregon.<br>
                  <br>
                  You appear to have either no enterprise values and/or
                  completely ignorant of the milieu of which the Germer
                  deadbeat action is a bit of.  I doubt that anyone on
                  the list wishes to take the time and effort to let you
                  in on the big non-secrets given your past actions as
                  an ardent apologist for Wilson.<br>
                  <br>
                  I had thought that we would be chastised by Gary
                  Crabtree, But so far, not.  But whatever other views
                  Crabtree may have, he is a believer in enterprise and
                  a businessman who provides and warrants his goods and
                  services and expects to be paid promptly for them. 
                  Hence it is not unreasonable to assume that he also
                  abhors deadbeats.  It is highly probable that Crabtree
                  also knows Larry Germer and would not be adverse to
                  hearing his side of the story directly from him.<br>
                  <br>
                  w.<br>
                  <br>
                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 4:19
                    PM, Paul Rumelhart <span dir="ltr"><<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>></span>
                    wrote:<br>
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                          <div><span>Glad to hear it.  What was your
                              intent?</span></div>
                          <div><br>
                            <span></span></div>
                          <div><span>Paul</span></div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
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                                    <hr size="1"> <b><span
                                        style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b>
                                    Moscow Cares <<a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:moscowcares@moscow.com">moscowcares@moscow.com</a>><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b>
                                  Paul Rumelhart <<a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>>

                                  <br>
                                  <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b>
                                  Art Deco <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:art.deco.studios@gmail.com">art.deco.studios@gmail.com</a>>;


                                  "<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>"
                                  <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>>

                                  <br>
                                  <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
                                  Monday, June 25, 2012 4:06 PM
                                  <div>
                                    <div class="h5"><br>
                                      <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
                                      Re: [Vision2020] Case No.
                                      CV-2011-1234 (Germer Const., Inc.
                                      v. Greensides Inc, Wilson, Gray,
                                      and Hoffman)<br>
                                    </div>
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                                <div class="h5"> <br>
                                  <div>
                                    <div>
                                      <div>I really don't feel it
                                        necessary to explain to Mr.
                                        Rumelhart that my intention was
                                        neither bullying nor to
                                        encourage physical
                                        confrontation.</div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>'Nuff said.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        <div>Seeya round town, Moscow.</div>
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>Tom Hansen</div>
                                        <div>Moscow, Idaho</div>
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>"If not us, who?</div>
                                        <div>If not now, when?"</div>
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>- Unknown</div>
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                      <div><br>
                                        On Jun 25, 2012, at 15:57, Paul
                                        Rumelhart <<a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>>


                                        wrote:<br>
                                        <br>
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                                        <div>
                                          <div
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                                            york,times,serif">
                                            <div><span>Is that why Mr.
                                                Hansen posted his
                                                address?  So people on
                                                this list could find him
                                                and confront him
                                                physically?</span></div>
                                            <div><br>
                                              <span></span></div>
                                            <div><span>No thank you.</span></div>
                                            <div><br>
                                              <span></span></div>
                                            <div><span>Let the courts
                                                work it out and leave
                                                the 5th grade bullying
                                                behind.  It's a private
                                                matter between two
                                                companies.</span></div>
                                            <div><br>
                                              <span></span></div>
                                            <div><span>I swear, any
                                                mention of Doug Wilson
                                                or Christ Church and you
                                                guys leave your common
                                                sense locked in a drawer
                                                somewhere.<br>
                                              </span></div>
                                            <div><br>
                                              <span></span></div>
                                            <div><span>Paul<br>
                                              </span></div>
                                            <div><br>
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                                                    <hr size="1"> <b><span
style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Art Deco <<a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:art.deco.studios@gmail.com">art.deco.studios@gmail.com</a>><br>
                                                    <b><span
                                                        style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b>
                                                    <a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a> <br>
                                                    <b><span
                                                        style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
                                                    Monday, June 25,
                                                    2012 3:39 PM<br>
                                                    <b><span
                                                        style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
                                                    Re: [Vision2020]
                                                    Case No.
                                                    CV-2011-1234 (Germer
                                                    Const., Inc. v.
                                                    Greensides Inc,
                                                    Wilson, Gray, and
                                                    Hoffman)<br>
                                                  </font> </div>
                                                <br>
                                                <div>@Paul:<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  Sorry to report
                                                  neither the world nor
                                                  v2020 revolves around
                                                  you.  However, there
                                                  is a strong
                                                  probability that a
                                                  number of people or
                                                  their agents would
                                                  like a little face
                                                  time with Hoffman.<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  w.<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <div> On Mon, Jun 25,
                                                    2012 at 2:41 PM, Tom
                                                    Hansen <span
                                                      dir="ltr"><<a
                                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>></span>
                                                    wrote:<br>
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                                                        <div>Paul
                                                          Rumelhart
                                                          inquires:</div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>"<span>Now
                                                          that you've
                                                          posted this
                                                          gentleman's
                                                          address on
                                                          this list,
                                                          what is it
                                                          that you would
                                                          like me to do
                                                          with this
                                                          information?"</span></div>
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                                                        <div><font
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                                                          size="4"><span><span>Can


                                                          I tell him
                                                          what to with
                                                          it, Wayne?
                                                           Huh?  Can I?
                                                           Can I?</span><br>
                                                          </span></font>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Seeya
                                                          round town,
                                                          Moscow.</div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Tom
                                                          Hansen</div>
                                                          <div>Moscow,
                                                          Idaho</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>"If not
                                                          us, who?</div>
                                                          <div>If not
                                                          now, when?"</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>- Unknown</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          On Jun 25,
                                                          2012, at
                                                          14:01, Paul
                                                          Rumelhart <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">godshatter@yahoo.com</a>>
                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          type="cite">Now

                                                          that you've
                                                          posted this
                                                          gentleman's
                                                          address on
                                                          this list,
                                                          what is it
                                                          that you would
                                                          like me to do
                                                          with this
                                                          information?</blockquote>
                                                        </div>
                                                      </div>
                                                    </blockquote>
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                                                  <br>
                                                  <br clear="all">
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                                                  -- <br>
                                                  Art Deco (Wayne A.
                                                  Fox)<br>
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                <span> List services made available by First Step
                  Internet,</span><br>
                <span> serving the communities of the Palouse since
                  1994.</span><br>
                <span>               <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="http://www.fsr.net">http://www.fsr.net</a></span><br>
                <span>          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</a></span><br>
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          <span> List services made available by First Step Internet,</span><br>
          <span> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.</span><br>
          <span>               <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://www.fsr.net">http://www.fsr.net</a></span><br>
          <span>          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com">mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</a></span><br>
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