[Vision2020] Fwd: Breaking news from lmtribune.com

[Art Deco]

Sometimes amateur help is disastrous.  Moving someone whose internal bleeding has clotted may cause it to begin again and thus cause death.

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Paul Rumelhart 
  To: Reggie Holmquist 
  Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com ; Donovan Arnold 
  Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2011 4:45 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fwd: Breaking news from lmtribune.com



  Didn't they even put laws in place to make sure that you couldn't be sued if you did help but made things worse?  Which is a legitimate concern if such laws were put in place.  Amateur help is not always better than no help at all.

  Paul

  On 05/14/2011 04:18 PM, Reggie Holmquist wrote: 
    We covered this pretty extensively in Torts last semester.  There is no duty to help someone else unless you have a special relationship with that person (guardian, for example).  CPR certification does not create a duty that I am aware of.  If it did, that would only discourage people from getting CPR certification.

    -Reggie


    On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:

            Tom,

            If you are CPR certified you are required to help.  


            Donovan Arnold 


            --- On Sat, 5/14/11, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:


              From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>

              Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fwd: Breaking news from lmtribune.com

              To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>, "Joe Campbell" <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>, "vision2020 at moscow.com" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
              Date: Saturday, May 14, 2011, 1:23 PM 



              Donovan Arnold stated:

              "Nobody is morally or ethically responsible to prevent a bad event if
              their action knowingly would result in something worse."

              In my opinion moral and ethical responsibility is determined individually.

              If I were fishing from a dock on Lake Coeur d'Alene and observed a child
              slowly drowning . . . although I may not be legally responsible . . . I
              would consider myself to be ethically and morally responsible to take
              action to prevent the child from drowning.

              Footnote:  If I were fishing on a lake in Germany and observed a child
              drowning, I WOULD BE legally responsible to take action to prevent the
              child from drowning.  I could be arrested and jailed in Germany, but not
              in the United States.  If you were to drive by an unattended accident and
              didn't stop to offer help, you would be held criminally liable.

              Just some laws I think the US should consider.

              Tom Hansen
              Moscow, Idaho

              "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it to
              changeand the Realist adjusts his sails."

              - Unknown


           

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