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<DIV><FONT size=2>Sometimes amateur help is disastrous. Moving someone
whose internal bleeding has clotted may cause it to begin again and thus cause
death.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>w.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=godshatter@yahoo.com href="mailto:godshatter@yahoo.com">Paul
Rumelhart</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=reggieholmquist@u.boisestate.edu
href="mailto:reggieholmquist@u.boisestate.edu">Reggie Holmquist</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> ; <A
title=donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 14, 2011 4:45
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Fwd: Breaking
news from lmtribune.com</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><BR>Didn't they even put laws in place to make sure that you
couldn't be sued if you did help but made things worse? Which is a
legitimate concern if such laws were put in place. Amateur help is not
always better than no help at all.<BR><BR>Paul<BR><BR>On 05/14/2011 04:18 PM,
Reggie Holmquist wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=mid:BANLkTi=dmj3dVb1bTw3Tu=h9GYKat-ryLQ@mail.gmail.com
type="cite">We covered this pretty extensively in Torts last semester.
There is no duty to help someone else unless you have a special relationship
with that person (guardian, for example). CPR certification does not
create a duty that I am aware of. If it did, that would only
discourage people from getting CPR certification.<BR><BR>-Reggie<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Donovan Arnold <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</A>></SPAN>
wrote:<BR>
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<DIV>Tom,</DIV>
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<DIV>If you are CPR certified you are required to help. </DIV>
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<DIV>Donovan Arnold
<DIV class=im><BR><BR>--- On <B>Sat, 5/14/11, Tom Hansen <I><<A
href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">thansen@moscow.com</A>></I></B>
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<DIV class=im><BR>From: Tom Hansen <<A
href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com" target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">thansen@moscow.com</A>><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=im>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fwd: Breaking news from
<SPAN>lmtribune</SPAN>.com<BR></DIV>To: "Donovan Arnold" <<A
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</A>>, "Joe
Campbell" <<A href="mailto:philosopher.joe@gmail.com"
target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">philosopher.joe@gmail.com</A>>, "<A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">vision2020@moscow.com</A>" <<A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">vision2020@moscow.com</A>><BR>Date:
Saturday, May 14, 2011, 1:23 PM
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<DIV>Donovan Arnold stated:<BR><BR>"Nobody is morally or ethically
responsible to prevent a bad event if<BR>their action knowingly
would result in something worse."<BR><BR>In my opinion moral and
ethical responsibility is determined individually.<BR><BR>If I
were fishing from a dock on Lake Coeur d'Alene and observed a
child<BR>slowly drowning . . . although I may not be legally
responsible . . . I<BR>would consider myself to be ethically and
morally responsible to take<BR>action to prevent the child from
drowning.<BR><BR>Footnote: If I were fishing on a lake in
Germany and observed a child<BR>drowning, I WOULD BE legally
responsible to take action to prevent the<BR>child from
drowning. I could be arrested and jailed in Germany, but
not<BR>in the United States. If you were to drive by an
unattended accident and<BR>didn't stop to offer help, you would be
held criminally liable.<BR><BR>Just some laws I think the US
should consider.<BR><BR>Tom Hansen<BR>Moscow, Idaho<BR><BR>"The
Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it
to<BR>changeand the Realist adjusts his sails."<BR><BR>-
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