[Vision2020] "Credit Card Services"

Thu Feb 24 21:05:53 PST 2011

Well, Gary, you trust these folks to decide to invade other countries; to occupy and administer them when you simultaneously believe they can't administer jack in our own country which they actually know; to seize prisoners in occupied lands on the word of snitches collecting money; to torture - wait, gently question them - and hold them in perpetuity.

How come the same sumbitches become so friggin' smart when they wield power of life and death outside our borders? How come people with your views grant all power to the gubmint when they're killing someone else abroad?

It's a goddamn mystery to me.

Oh, wait, it's not your ass when they do it somewhere else.

Sunil

From: lockshop at pull.twcbc.com
To: v2020 at ssl1.fastmail.fm; rforce2003 at yahoo.com; deco at moscow.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 09:45:32 -0800
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] "Credit Card Services"

These clowns can't handle keeping 
telemarketers on the straight and narrow and you want to turn twenty 
percent of the American economy over to them in the form of your health 
care?

"those with the 
power to STOP this kind of crap don’t care about we-the-people . . . they are in 
the pockets of those whose financial interest it’s in to keep those loopholes 
open & enforcement of even anemic provisions non-existent."

It will be these same people, the folks who bought 
us the social security/medicaid debacle and yes the do not call legislation, who 
will be in charge of your chemotherapy, your heart bypass, and your hip 
replacement.

Think your angry and frustrated now?

g
----- Original Message ----- 

  From: 
  Saundra 
  Lund 
  To: 'Ron Force' ; 'Art Deco' ; 'Vision 2020' 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 11:04 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] "Credit Card 
  Services"

  Like Wayne, we’ve 
  been on the Do Not Call Registry since its inception (we registered 
  6/28/2003), yet pre-recorded robo-calls from “Rachel with Card Services” has 
  been calling us once or twice a month for 2-3 years in spite of the fact that 
  we don’t have “at least $5000” in credit card debt that’s the amount they’re 
  interested in, apparently – yes, I, too, have played the fishing game with 
  them.

  And, I – along 
  with probably thousands, if not tens of thousands of people sick of being 
  harassed – have faithfully filed detailed complaints each & every time 
  we’ve gotten the robo-calls from “Card Services.”  Not only have I 
  faithfully filed the complaint forms with the Do Not Call Registry, I also 
  regularly fill out this FCC complaint form each & every 
  time:
  http://esupport.fcc.gov/complaints.htm?sid=d1e37&id=d1e60

  Fat lot of good 
  it’s ever done.

  To 
  me, this is just another example of how far behind technology advances privacy 
  & consumer protection laws have been allowed to fall because those with 
  the power to STOP this kind of crap don’t care about we-the-people . . . they 
  are in the pockets of those whose financial interest it’s in to keep those 
  loopholes open & enforcement of even anemic provisions 
  non-existent.

  With 
  junk postal mail, at least the direct marketers are footing the bill for 
  annoying me & they don’t interrupt meals, sleep, visitors, gardening, and 
  all kinds of other activities of life, and they sure don’t verbally abuse me 
  the way the “representatives” of “Card Services” do when I ask in vain for the 
  thousandth time to be removed from their damn call list.  With these 
  slimy telemarketers, they are taking advantage of a service I pay for 
  my personal convenience as a way to harass me with impunity day & 
  night.  Only in a country where greed and corporate interests are more 
  important than the rights of individual consumers would such lunacy be allowed 
  and even advocated by those we elect.  It’s disgusting, pure & 
  simple.

  Saundra 
  Lund
  Moscow, 
  ID

  The only thing 
  necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do 
  nothing.
  ~ Edmund 
  Burke

  ***** Original 
  material contained herein is Copyright 2011 through life plus 70 years, 
  Saundra Lund.  Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce outside the 
  Vision 2020 forum without the express written permission of the 
  author.*****

  From: 
  vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On 
  Behalf Of Ron Force
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 10:23 
  PM
To: Art Deco; Vision 2020
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] 
  "Credit Card Services"

  File a complaint:

https://complaints.donotcall.gov/complaint/complaintcheck.aspx?panel=2

Ron 
  Force
Moscow Idaho USA

  From: Art Deco 
  <deco at moscow.com>
To: Vision 2020 
  <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 3:36:13 
  PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] "Credit Card 
  Services"

  We have been signed up for 
  years.  Rachael and her friends call us several times 
  weekly.

  w.

    ----- Original 
    Message ----- 

    From: Ron Force 

    To: Carl Westberg ; vision2020 at moscow.com 

    Sent: Wednesday, 
    February 23, 2011 3:11 PM

    Subject: Re: [Vision2020] 
    "Credit Card Services"

    Sign up here:

https://www.donotcall.gov/

Forbids all commercial 
    calls except from those you've done business before. Charities and 
    politicians are exempt (unfortunately).

    Ron Force
Moscow Idaho USA 

    From: Carl Westberg 
    <idahovandal1 at live.com>
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Sent: Wed, February 23, 
    2011 2:09:41 PM
Subject: [Vision2020] "Credit Card 
    Services"

Has anyone else had the repeated pleasure of phone 
    calls from "Credit Card Services"?  I've had several, usually from 
    "Rachel", who proceeds to tell me or my answering machine that "while 
    there's nothing wrong with your account right now, it's "urgent" that you 
    contact us right away for better interest rates".......which is the point 
    where I always rudely hang up on poor "Rachel".  I probably got my 
    first call at least a year ago, and have received about a dozen since. It's 
    an obvious scam designed to bilk more gullible folk into giving out there 
    bank and account number.  How do these people get away with this 
    stuff?  This is a rhetorical 
    question.....

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