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Well, Gary, you trust these folks to decide to invade other countries; to occupy and administer them when you simultaneously believe they can't administer jack in our own country which they actually know; to seize prisoners in occupied lands on the word of snitches collecting money; to torture - wait, gently question them - and hold them in perpetuity.<br><br>How come the same sumbitches become so friggin' smart when they wield power of life and death outside our borders? How come people with your views grant all power to the gubmint when they're killing someone else abroad?<br><br>It's a goddamn mystery to me.<br><br>Oh, wait, it's not your ass when they do it somewhere else.<br><br>Sunil<br><br><hr id="stopSpelling">From: lockshop@pull.twcbc.com<br>To: v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm; rforce2003@yahoo.com; deco@moscow.com; vision2020@moscow.com<br>Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 09:45:32 -0800<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] "Credit Card Services"<br><br>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">These clowns can't handle keeping
telemarketers on the straight and narrow and you want to turn twenty
percent of the American economy over to them in the form of your health
care?</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">"<font size="3"><font color="#1f497d">those with the
power to STOP this kind of crap don’t care about we-the-people . . . they are in
the pockets of those whose financial interest it’s in to keep those loopholes
open & enforcement of even anemic provisions non-existent.</font><font size="2" color="#000000">"</font></font></font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">It will be these same people, the folks who bought
us the social security/medicaid debacle and yes the do not call legislation, who
will be in charge of your chemotherapy, your heart bypass, and your hip
replacement.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">Think your angry and frustrated now?</font></div>
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<a title="v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm" href="mailto:v2020@ssl1.fastmail.fm">Saundra
Lund</a> </div>
<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>To:</b> <a title="rforce2003@yahoo.com" href="mailto:rforce2003@yahoo.com">'Ron Force'</a> ; <a title="deco@moscow.com" href="mailto:deco@moscow.com">'Art Deco'</a> ; <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">'Vision 2020'</a> </div>
<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 23, 2011 11:04
PM</div>
<div style="font: 10pt arial;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] "Credit Card
Services"</div>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">Like Wayne, we’ve
been on the Do Not Call Registry since its inception (we registered
6/28/2003), yet pre-recorded robo-calls from “Rachel with Card Services” has
been calling us once or twice a month for 2-3 years in spite of the fact that
we don’t have “at least $5000” in credit card debt that’s the amount they’re
interested in, apparently – yes, I, too, have played the fishing game with
them.</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">And, I – along
with probably thousands, if not tens of thousands of people sick of being
harassed – have faithfully filed detailed complaints each & every time
we’ve gotten the robo-calls from “Card Services.” Not only have I
faithfully filed the complaint forms with the Do Not Call Registry, I also
regularly fill out this FCC complaint form each & every
time:</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><a href="http://esupport.fcc.gov/complaints.htm?sid=d1e37&id=d1e60" target="_blank">http://esupport.fcc.gov/complaints.htm?sid=d1e37&id=d1e60</a></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">Fat lot of good
it’s ever done.</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';"> </span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoPlainText"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">To
me, this is just another example of how far behind technology advances privacy
& consumer protection laws have been allowed to fall because those with
the power to STOP this kind of crap don’t care about we-the-people . . . they
are in the pockets of those whose financial interest it’s in to keep those
loopholes open & enforcement of even anemic provisions
non-existent.</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoPlainText"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';"> </span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoPlainText"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">With
junk postal mail, at least the direct marketers are footing the bill for
annoying me & they don’t interrupt meals, sleep, visitors, gardening, and
all kinds of other activities of life, and they sure don’t verbally abuse me
the way the “representatives” of “Card Services” do when I ask in vain for the
thousandth time to be removed from their damn call list. With these
slimy telemarketers, they are taking advantage of a service <b>I</b> pay for
<b>my</b> personal convenience as a way to harass me with impunity day &
night. Only in a country where greed and corporate interests are more
important than the rights of individual consumers would such lunacy be allowed
and even advocated by those we elect. It’s disgusting, pure &
simple.</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">Saundra
Lund</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">Moscow,
ID</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">The only thing
necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
nothing.</span></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">~ Edmund
Burke</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif';">***** Original
material contained herein is Copyright 2011 through life plus 70 years,
Saundra Lund. Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce outside the
Vision 2020 forum without the express written permission of the
author.*****</span></b></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';">
vision2020-bounces@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Ron Force<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 23, 2011 10:23
PM<br><b>To:</b> Art Deco; Vision 2020<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020]
"Credit Card Services"</span></p></div></div>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal">File a complaint:<br><br><a href="https://complaints.donotcall.gov/complaint/complaintcheck.aspx?panel=2" target="_blank">https://complaints.donotcall.gov/complaint/complaintcheck.aspx?panel=2</a><br><br>Ron
Force<br>Moscow Idaho USA</p>
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<deco@moscow.com><br><b>To:</b> Vision 2020
<vision2020@moscow.com><br><b>Sent:</b> Wed, February 23, 2011 3:36:13
PM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] "Credit Card
Services"</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">We have been signed up for
years. Rachael and her friends call us several times
weekly.</span></p></div>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';">To:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';"> <a title="idahovandal1@live.com" href="mailto:idahovandal1@live.com">Carl Westberg</a> ; <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';">Sent:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';"> Wednesday,
February 23, 2011 3:11 PM</span></p></div>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';">Subject:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif';"> Re: [Vision2020]
"Credit Card Services"</span></p></div>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal">Sign up here:<br><br><a href="https://www.donotcall.gov/" target="_blank">https://www.donotcall.gov/</a><br><br>Forbids all commercial
calls except from those you've done business before. Charities and
politicians are exempt (unfortunately).</p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal">Ron Force<br>Moscow Idaho USA </p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';"> Carl Westberg
<<a href="mailto:idahovandal1@live.com">idahovandal1@live.com</a>><br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a><br><b>Sent:</b> Wed, February 23,
2011 2:09:41 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> [Vision2020] "Credit Card
Services"<br></span><br>Has anyone else had the repeated pleasure of phone
calls from "Credit Card Services"? I've had several, usually from
"Rachel", who proceeds to tell me or my answering machine that "while
there's nothing wrong with your account right now, it's "urgent" that you
contact us right away for better interest rates".......which is the point
where I always rudely hang up on poor "Rachel". I probably got my
first call at least a year ago, and have received about a dozen since. It's
an obvious scam designed to bilk more gullible folk into giving out there
bank and account number. How do these people get away with this
stuff? This is a rhetorical
question.....</p></div></div></div>
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