[Vision2020] Pres mans-up

Thu Nov 4 02:13:04 PDT 2010

You seem to overlook the presidents little helpers, Arlen Specter, Susan Collins, and Olympia Snow. Would you care to remind me of any legislation that was successfully held up by this parliamentary procedure between 20 January 2009 and 02 November 2010?

g

From: Ron Force 
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 9:43 PM
To: Gary Crabtree ; keely emerinemix ; vpschwaller at gmail.com ; vision2020 at moscow.com 
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Pres mans-up

Filibuster proof majority? Not so much. Al Franken wasn't seated until July 2009. Edward Kennedy passed away early August, and his replacement wasn't seated until the end of September. Then Brown won in January, ending the filibuster proof majority that Obama had in the Senate for maybe four months, top. And, even then it was dependent on the ever wavering Joe Lieberman.

Ron Force
Moscow Idaho USA 

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From: Gary Crabtree <jampot at roadrunner.com>
To: keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com>; vpschwaller at gmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
Sent: Wed, November 3, 2010 8:47:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Pres mans-up

Reading a little much into a subject line aren’t we?

I'm a little curious as to how daunting you imagine  "facing down an unremittingly hostile GOP in his first half-term." is likely to have been. Your paragon of masculine virtue had absolutely no need to even acknowledge their presence other than to taunt them as the source of all ills,  castigate them as "enemies" and consign them to "the back of the bus." The cold hard facts of the matter are that the president had a veto proof, filibuster proof majority and could do as he pleased without so much as a Republican by your leave. The only disappointments to be suffered were at the hands of other democrats.

g

From: keely emerinemix 
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 6:47 PM
To: vpschwaller at gmail.com ; vision2020 at moscow.com 
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Pres mans-up

Gee, Glenndale, with talk of the President's "manning up," you sound as rough and tumble as Christine O'Donnell, Sarah Palin, and Sharron Angle.  I  suppose that makes you da man . . . or da men.  Good for you.

It looks like you're interpreting the Huffington Post article as an introduction to Obama 2.0, Manlier Version (Chest Hair Sold Separately).  I guess, then, that I'd be correct in concluding that you think that some sort of cowardice, softness, and limp-wristedness is behind Obama's difficulties over the past two years.  Care to confirm, with examples?  Because I think a lot of us who have had our disappointments with him haven't really ever given due consideration to any lack of bravery or toughness on his part.  I know you know a lot about bravery and toughness, so I'm hoping you can shed some light on this for us.  I know you wouldn't hold a guy's intellect, education, or bearing against him -- you've probably met a few manly Classicists in your life -- so I'm really interested in hearing how he hasn't "manned up" while facing down an unremittingly hostile GOP in his first half-term.

It's true that Barack Obama doesn't taunt our enemies on a destroyer in wartime while wearing a crotch-enhancing flightsuit, but I just guess I always assumed he was "man enough" for the job.  Since I know we can agree that people who hide behind pseudonyms or anonymity aren't terribly gutsy, I await your analysis.

Keely
www.keely-prevailingwinds.com

> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 17:57:58 -0700
> From: vpschwaller at gmail.com
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: [Vision2020] Pres mans-up
> 
> >From the Huffington Post:
> 
> A chastened President Barack Obama signaled a willingness to
> compromise with Republicans on tax cuts and energy policy Wednesday,
> one day after his party lost control of the House and suffered deep
> Senate losses in midterm elections.
> 
> Obama ruefully called the Republican victories "a shellacking" and
> acknowledged that his own connection with the public had frayed.
> 
> At a White House news conference, the president said that when
> Congress returns, "my goal is to make sure we don't have a huge spike
> in taxes for middle class families." He made no mention of his
> campaign-long insistence that tax cuts be permitted to expire on
> upper-income families, a position he said would avoid swelling the
> deficit but put him in conflict with Republicans.
> 
> He also virtually abandoned his legislation – hopelessly stalled in
> the Senate – featuring economic incentives to reduce carbon emissions
> from power plants, vehicles and other sources.
> 
> "I'm going to be looking for other means of addressing this problem,"
> he said. "Cap and trade was just one way of skinning the cat," he
> said, strongly implying there will be others.
> 
> In the campaign, Republicans slammed the bill as a "national energy
> tax" and jobs killer, and numerous Democrats sought to emphasize their
> opposition to the measure during their own re-election races.
> 
> The president opened his post-election news conference by saying
> voters who felt frustrated by the sluggish pace of economic recovery
> had dictated the Republican takeover in the House.
> 
> Asked to reflect on the returns, he said, "I feel bad," adding that
> many Democrats who went down to defeat had done so knowing they risked
> their careers to support his agenda of economic stimulus legislation
> and a landmark health care bill. He blamed himself, in part.
> 
> "The relationship that I've had with the American people is one that
> built slowly, peaked at this incredible high, and then during the
> course of the last two years, as we've together gone through some very
> difficult times, has gotten rockier and tougher," Obama said.
> 
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