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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Calibri>You seem to overlook the presidents little
helpers, Arlen Specter, Susan Collins, and Olympia Snow. Would you care to
remind me of any legislation that was successfully held up by this parliamentary
procedure between 20 January 2009 and 02 November 2010?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=rforce2003@yahoo.com
href="mailto:rforce2003@yahoo.com">Ron Force</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 03, 2010 9:43 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=jampot@roadrunner.com
href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">Gary Crabtree</A> ; <A
title=kjajmix1@msn.com href="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com">keely emerinemix</A> ; <A
title="mailto:vpschwaller@gmail.com CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="mailto:vpschwaller@gmail.com">vpschwaller@gmail.com</A> ; <A
title="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com CTRL + Click to follow link"
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Pres mans-up</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: times new roman,new york,times,serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Filibuster
proof majority? Not so much. Al Franken wasn't seated until July 2009. Edward
Kennedy passed away early August, and his replacement wasn't seated until the
end of September. Then Brown won in January, ending the filibuster proof
majority that Obama had in the Senate for maybe four months, top. And, even then
it was dependent on the ever wavering Joe Lieberman.<BR>
<DIV> </DIV>Ron Force<BR>Moscow Idaho USA
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Gary Crabtree <<A
title="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">jampot@roadrunner.com</A>><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> keely emerinemix <<A
title="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com">kjajmix1@msn.com</A>>; <A
title="mailto:vpschwaller@gmail.com CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="mailto:vpschwaller@gmail.com">vpschwaller@gmail.com</A>; <A
title="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wed, November 3, 2010 8:47:34
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Vision2020]
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face=Calibri>Reading a little much into a
subject line aren’t we?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=3 face=Calibri>I'm a little curious as to
how daunting you imagine "<FONT color=#ff0000>facing down an
unremittingly hostile GOP in his first half-term.</FONT><FONT color=#000000>" is
likely to have been. Your paragon of masculine virtue had absolutely no need to
even acknowledge their presence other than to taunt them as the
source of all ills, castigate them as "enemies" and consign them to
"the back of the bus." The cold hard facts of the matter are that the president
had a veto proof, filibuster proof majority and could do as he pleased without
so much as a Republican by your leave. The only disappointments to be suffered
were at the hands of other democrats.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><B>From:</B> <A
title="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:kjajmix1@msn.com">keely emerinemix</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 03, 2010 6:47 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A
title="mailto:vpschwaller@gmail.com CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="mailto:vpschwaller@gmail.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:vpschwaller@gmail.com">vpschwaller@gmail.com</A> ; <A
title="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank
ymailto="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Pres mans-up</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Gee, Glenndale, with talk of the President's "manning up," you
sound as rough and tumble as Christine O'Donnell, Sarah Palin, and Sharron
Angle. I suppose that makes you da man . . . or da men. Good
for you.<BR><BR>It looks like you're interpreting the Huffington Post article as
an introduction to Obama 2.0, Manlier Version (Chest Hair Sold
Separately). I guess, then, that I'd be correct in concluding that you
think that some sort of cowardice, softness, and limp-wristedness is behind
Obama's difficulties over the past two years. Care to confirm, with
examples? Because I think a lot of us who have had our disappointments
with him haven't really ever given due consideration to any lack of bravery or
toughness on his part. I know you know a lot about bravery and toughness,
so I'm hoping you can shed some light on this for us. I know you wouldn't
hold a guy's intellect, education, or bearing against him -- you've probably met
a few manly Classicists in your life -- so I'm really interested in hearing how
he hasn't "manned up" while facing down an unremittingly hostile GOP in his
first half-term.<BR><BR>It's true that Barack Obama doesn't taunt our enemies on
a destroyer in wartime while wearing a crotch-enhancing flightsuit, but I just
guess I always assumed he was "man enough" for the job. Since I know we
can agree that people who hide behind pseudonyms or anonymity aren't terribly
gutsy, I await your analysis.<BR><BR><FONT color=#8064a2><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt" size=3><FONT face=Verdana>Keely<BR><A
href="http://www.keely-prevailingwinds.com"
target=_blank>www.keely-prevailingwinds.com</A><BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><BR><BR><BR><BR>>
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 17:57:58 -0700<BR>> From: vpschwaller@gmail.com<BR>>
To: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> Subject: [Vision2020] Pres mans-up<BR>>
<BR>> >From the Huffington Post:<BR>> <BR>> A chastened President
Barack Obama signaled a willingness to<BR>> compromise with Republicans on
tax cuts and energy policy Wednesday,<BR>> one day after his party lost
control of the House and suffered deep<BR>> Senate losses in midterm
elections.<BR>> <BR>> Obama ruefully called the Republican victories "a
shellacking" and<BR>> acknowledged that his own connection with the public
had frayed.<BR>> <BR>> At a White House news conference, the president
said that when<BR>> Congress returns, "my goal is to make sure we don't have
a huge spike<BR>> in taxes for middle class families." He made no mention of
his<BR>> campaign-long insistence that tax cuts be permitted to expire
on<BR>> upper-income families, a position he said would avoid swelling
the<BR>> deficit but put him in conflict with Republicans.<BR>> <BR>>
He also virtually abandoned his legislation – hopelessly stalled in<BR>> the
Senate – featuring economic incentives to reduce carbon emissions<BR>> from
power plants, vehicles and other sources.<BR>> <BR>> "I'm going to be
looking for other means of addressing this problem,"<BR>> he said. "Cap and
trade was just one way of skinning the cat," he<BR>> said, strongly implying
there will be others.<BR>> <BR>> In the campaign, Republicans slammed the
bill as a "national energy<BR>> tax" and jobs killer, and numerous Democrats
sought to emphasize their<BR>> opposition to the measure during their own
re-election races.<BR>> <BR>> The president opened his post-election news
conference by saying<BR>> voters who felt frustrated by the sluggish pace of
economic recovery<BR>> had dictated the Republican takeover in the
House.<BR>> <BR>> Asked to reflect on the returns, he said, "I feel bad,"
adding that<BR>> many Democrats who went down to defeat had done so knowing
they risked<BR>> their careers to support his agenda of economic stimulus
legislation<BR>> and a landmark health care bill. He blamed himself, in
part.<BR>> <BR>> "The relationship that I've had with the American people
is one that<BR>> built slowly, peaked at this incredible high, and then
during the<BR>> course of the last two years, as we've together gone through
some very<BR>> difficult times, has gotten rockier and tougher," Obama
said.<BR>> <BR>>
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