[Vision2020] J. K. Campbell's "Strawson's Free Will Naturalism" on U of I Website!?

Joe Campbell philosopher.joe at gmail.com
Thu Nov 5 07:40:04 PST 2009


Thanks, Ted! I was just trying to make clear what I said. I've had  
calls and offlist letters from folks who thought I said something and  
it turned out to be something said in a post after mine.

I'm really touched by the interest. Two good sources of contemporary  
philosophy are the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy and the  
Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy.

"Pereboom on Deliberation" is a reply to a paper by Derk Pereboom, one  
of the top guys in free will. He is a free will skeptic -- no one has  
free will -- and his book Living Without Free Will is a contemporary  
classic. I'm not a free will skeptic, for those who like to distort my  
words!


On Nov 4, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Ted Moffett <starbliss at gmail.com> wrote:

> Practicing fake medicine?  Those preaching ethics and theology from  
> many pulpits are often not sufficiently qualified professionally,  
> promoting gross oversimplifications of philosophy, from the point of  
> view of a PhD doing technical academic philosophy.  They sometimes  
> promote that gays are terrible sinners, promoting bigotry, that  
> those following other religions will not be "saved," which can  
> encourage discrimination against other religions, that women be  
> subservient, that well researched scientific theories are false  
> (evolution), encouraging anti-science (Creationism) curriculum in  
> schools, and an anti-science attitude in general, resulting in  
> millions in the US hampering necessary political and economic  
> changes to address critical problems that are based on a broad  
> understanding of science, such as climate change.  I could go on...  
> but... Are they philosophical theological fakes?  It would seem so...
>
> The preceding paragraph actually belongs in the thread on the  
> Hitchens/Wilson debate...
>
> What you wrote, which I think has merit, regarding the discussion of  
> the Hitchens/Wilson "debate," is the following, which implies rather  
> clearly, unless I'm misreading intention, that the Hitchens/Wilson  
> debate was somehow "...creating the illusion the one is really doing  
> philosophy:"
>
> http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2009-November/066979.html
>
> "There are a host of issues here that I wouldn't
> even attempt to address in a single course, let alone a book or a
> movie. This is an oversimplification of philosophy. As a philosopher,
> this kind of stuff drives me up the wall. But I understand that
> philosophy is open to all, so in the end there is nothing wrong with
> it other than creating the illusion that one is really doing
> philosophy."
> -----------------
> Anyway, I don't recall that I wrote that you or anyone is a "real  
> philosopher" or that you said as much about yourself.   I said I was  
> seeking "real" philosophy to read, by which I meant work that is  
> perhaps more academic, specialized, more technical, maybe less aimed  
> at the general public for consumption.  What I found in your  
> articles is just the ticket, with challenging and interesting new  
> ideas, at least to my mind.
>
> Of course different academic schools of philosophy around the world  
> have very different approaches to the problems they address, that  
> are perhaps mutually exclusive.  The disagreements might result in  
> some professional academic philosophers declaring some others to be  
> not doing "real" philosophy.  Compare Baudrillard with your  
> approach...
>
> I also located a couple of more papers online, one that is  
> published, it appears:
>
> http://philpapers.org/rec/KEIFWA
>
> http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/118517190/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0
>
> Free will and the necessity of the past
> Joseph Keim Campbell*
>   *Washington State University
> Analysis
>
> Volume 67 Issue 294, Pages 105 - 111
> ---------------------
> And another that I'm not sure whether to call it "published" or not,  
> but it is directly available on the web with no log-in or fee:
>
> "Pereboom on Deliberation"
> Joseph Keim Campbell
> Washington State University
> -------
> I like this opening sentence:
>
> "To quote the Velvet Underground, “I have made the big decision."
>
> http://experimentalphilosophy.typepad.com/2nd_annual_online_philoso/files/cambells_commentary_on_pereboom.pdf
> ------------------------------------------
> Vision2020 Post: Ted Moffett
>
> On 11/4/09, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com> wrote:
> Also, I never said I was a "real philosopher." I am a professional  
> philosopher, that us, I have a job teaching philosophy and that job  
> requires that I publish also.
>
>
> Look if you were a doctor and saw someone practicing fake medicine   
> -- and getting a lot of attention for it -- I'm sure it would tick  
> you off. And not just because it's dangerous. Don't make too much  
> out of it. And if you find an instance where I show disrespect for  
> my opponent, I'd like to know about it.
>
>
> That's 3 for me! See you tomorrow!
>
>
> Amen!
>
> On Nov 4, 2009, at 4:51 AM, Ted Moffett <starbliss at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> In seeking some "real" philosophy to read, I decided to look up  
>> articles by Joseph Keim Campbell, Washington State University  
>> philosopher who sometimes contributes to Vision2020.  Oddly,  
>> Campbell's faculty page on the WSU website does not list his  
>> published articles, nor any article in total.  Or did I miss  
>> something?
>>
>> The MIT press lists books that J. K. Campbell has edited, but these  
>> are collections of essays by various authors.  The informationphilosopher.com 
>>  website quotes one Campbell article, "A Compatibilist Theory of  
>> Alternative Possibilities," Philosophical Studies, 88, pp.319-30,  
>> 1997, which is also listed on philpapers.org, though it indicates  
>> "Philosophical Studies 67 (3):339-44," with two other listed  
>> articles, (2005). Compatibilist Alternatives. Canadian Journal Of  
>> Philosophy 35 (3):387-406(1996), Hume's Refutation of the  
>> Cosmological Argument. International Journal for Philosophy of  
>> Religion 40 (3), and one reference to an MIT press collection of  
>> essays by various authors.
>>
>> I found two J. K. Campbell articles, with admittedly limited  
>> research, that are available in total online with direct access (no  
>> log-in or fee), an article titled as in the subject heading, oddly  
>> on the University of Idaho's website: http://www.uiweb.uidaho.edu/philosophy/essays/Campbell.Stawson.pdf 
>>  , not WSU's, and "Compatabilist Alternatives" as listed above, at  
>> this website:  http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~uctytho/dfwCompatCampbell.html
>>
>> The two other articles mentioned above are available with a log-in  
>> and/or fee from the web links given at philpapers.org, which I did  
>> not pursue.
>>
>> Perhaps there is a comprehensive listing somewhere of all of J. K.  
>> Campbell's publications in philosophy?  It's puzzling that the WSU  
>> website does not offer a comprehensive listing of Campbell's  
>> published articles, unless I missed it.
>> ------------------------------------------
>> Vision2020 Post: Ted Moffett
>>
>

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