[Vision2020] Say What?
Sunil Ramalingam
sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
Thu Jul 30 09:40:07 PDT 2009
He proved he lived there. Being rude in your own house is not an arrestable offense. What kind of police state do you want to live in?
Sunil
> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:20:40 -0700
> From: lfalen at turbonet.com
> To: bear at moscow.com
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?
>
> That is right, he was. The officer was responding to a potential burglary. Gates should have been appreciative. Instead he was verbally abusive.
> Roger
> -----Original message-----
> From: Wayne Price bear at moscow.com
> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:05:10 -0700
> To: lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?
>
> > Roger,
> >
> > But he was in HIS OWN HOUSE!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jul 29, 2009, at 10:57 AM, lfalen wrote:
> >
> > > I think thar you are missing the point. Gate was belligerent from
> > > the git go before he finally identified himself. He at first
> > > refused to do so. He was arrested for verbal abuse of a police
> > > officer, not for burglary. If a black cop came to my house after I
> > > had locked myself out I would thank him for doing his job. About 20
> > > years ago when I was the Feed Plant Manager for Whitman County
> > > Grower I was working late one night, trying to finish up the monthly
> > > billings. I had turned off the lights and went to sleep in a
> > > sleeping bag. It was about 2:00 AM when a search light was shined in
> > > the window. A bull horn said " come out of there with your hands up"
> > > I said " as soon as I get my pants on". I identified myself telling
> > > them what I was doing and they went on their way.
> > > Roger
> > >
> > > -----Original message-----
> > > From: Joe Campbell philosopher.joe at gmail.com
> > > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 07:41:30 -0700
> > > To: "g. crabtree" jampot at roadrunner.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?
> > >
> > >> Look it up yourself. You don't trust my sources anyway! Trust me, I'm
> > >> not going to waste my time trying to convince you of anything. I'm
> > >> just here to note your errors.
> > >>
> > >> Of course Gates could and should have handled it better. But once
> > >> the
> > >> ID was shown, the officer should have left. His services were no
> > >> longer needed. Everything after that point was a waste of taxpayer
> > >> dollars, something you usually care a lot about -- though it is not
> > >> surprising you ignore it when it suits you. That is your MO.
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>
> > >> On Jul 29, 2009, at 10:25 AM, "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I failed to note it because I'm fairly sure that it didn't happen.
> > >>> Please provide a link to BHO's apology to either Sgt. Crowley or the
> > >>> Cambridge P.D.
> > >>>
> > >>> Having actually read the police report, it's clear that had Gates
> > >>> simply and calmly shown his I.D. the officer would have left. It was
> > >>> Gates who continued to aggressively engage Sgt Crowley with demands
> > >>> and threats. Was Gates' arrest required? Probably not but, there is
> > >>> no question but what the professor was the one that was behaving
> > >>> stupidly.
> > >>>
> > >>> g
> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Campbell" <philosopher.joe at gmail.com
> > >>>>
> > >>> To: "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>
> > >>> Cc: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>; "Moscow Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com
> > >>>>
> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 6:41 AM
> > >>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> If someone came to your house thinking you broke in and you showed
> > >>>> him ID proving you lived there and he didn't leave immediately,
> > >>>> I'd say he acted stupidly -- even if you took the race elements
> > >>>> out of it. As it turns out, Obama even said he was sorry, which of
> > >>>> course you failed to note.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Not that any of this will convince you.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Jul 29, 2009, at 9:12 AM, "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> I'm not so sure that I'd go so far as to brand the POTUS a racist
> > >>>>> as it's a
> > >>>>> term that gets thrown around a little to casually, in my opinion.
> > >>>>> I would,
> > >>>>> however, like to know how you explain his standing in front of the
> > >>>>> nation
> > >>>>> and stating up front that he doesn't know the whole story with
> > >>>>> regard to his
> > >>>>> pal Henry Gates and Cambridge police sergeant James Crowley and
> > >>>>> yet went so
> > >>>>> far as to characterize law enforcements actions as "behaving
> > >>>>> stupidly?" How
> > >>>>> many other decisions does the man reach without being fully
> > >>>>> informed?
> > >>>>> Judging from other remarks I've heard him make I'd venture to say
> > >>>>> Cap and
> > >>>>> Trade and National Health Care might fall squarely into that same
> > >>>>> category.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> g
> > >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>>>> From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> > >>>>> To: "Moscow Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 5:41 AM
> > >>>>> Subject: [Vision2020] Say What?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> "This president, I think, has exposed himself as a guy, over and
> > >>>>>> over and
> > >>>>>> over again, who has a deep-seated hatred for white people or the
> > >>>>>> white
> > >>>>>> culture, I don't know what it is. I'm not saying that he
> > >>>>>> doesn't like
> > >>>>>> white people. I'm saying he has a problem. This guy is, I
> > >>>>>> believe, a
> > >>>>>> racist.''
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> - Glenn Beck on President Obama (July 28, 2009)
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIZDnpPafaA
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> -----------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Seeya round town, Moscow.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Tom Hansen
> > >>>>>> Moscow, Idaho
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it
> > >>>>>> to change
> > >>>>>> and the Realist adjusts his sails."
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> - Unknown
> > >>>>>>
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