[Vision2020] Say What?
lfalen
lfalen at turbonet.com
Thu Jul 30 09:20:40 PDT 2009
That is right, he was. The officer was responding to a potential burglary. Gates should have been appreciative. Instead he was verbally abusive.
Roger
-----Original message-----
From: Wayne Price bear at moscow.com
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:05:10 -0700
To: lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?
> Roger,
>
> But he was in HIS OWN HOUSE!
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 29, 2009, at 10:57 AM, lfalen wrote:
>
> > I think thar you are missing the point. Gate was belligerent from
> > the git go before he finally identified himself. He at first
> > refused to do so. He was arrested for verbal abuse of a police
> > officer, not for burglary. If a black cop came to my house after I
> > had locked myself out I would thank him for doing his job. About 20
> > years ago when I was the Feed Plant Manager for Whitman County
> > Grower I was working late one night, trying to finish up the monthly
> > billings. I had turned off the lights and went to sleep in a
> > sleeping bag. It was about 2:00 AM when a search light was shined in
> > the window. A bull horn said " come out of there with your hands up"
> > I said " as soon as I get my pants on". I identified myself telling
> > them what I was doing and they went on their way.
> > Roger
> >
> > -----Original message-----
> > From: Joe Campbell philosopher.joe at gmail.com
> > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 07:41:30 -0700
> > To: "g. crabtree" jampot at roadrunner.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?
> >
> >> Look it up yourself. You don't trust my sources anyway! Trust me, I'm
> >> not going to waste my time trying to convince you of anything. I'm
> >> just here to note your errors.
> >>
> >> Of course Gates could and should have handled it better. But once
> >> the
> >> ID was shown, the officer should have left. His services were no
> >> longer needed. Everything after that point was a waste of taxpayer
> >> dollars, something you usually care a lot about -- though it is not
> >> surprising you ignore it when it suits you. That is your MO.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Jul 29, 2009, at 10:25 AM, "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I failed to note it because I'm fairly sure that it didn't happen.
> >>> Please provide a link to BHO's apology to either Sgt. Crowley or the
> >>> Cambridge P.D.
> >>>
> >>> Having actually read the police report, it's clear that had Gates
> >>> simply and calmly shown his I.D. the officer would have left. It was
> >>> Gates who continued to aggressively engage Sgt Crowley with demands
> >>> and threats. Was Gates' arrest required? Probably not but, there is
> >>> no question but what the professor was the one that was behaving
> >>> stupidly.
> >>>
> >>> g
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Campbell" <philosopher.joe at gmail.com
> >>>>
> >>> To: "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>
> >>> Cc: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>; "Moscow Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com
> >>>>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 6:41 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> If someone came to your house thinking you broke in and you showed
> >>>> him ID proving you lived there and he didn't leave immediately,
> >>>> I'd say he acted stupidly -- even if you took the race elements
> >>>> out of it. As it turns out, Obama even said he was sorry, which of
> >>>> course you failed to note.
> >>>>
> >>>> Not that any of this will convince you.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jul 29, 2009, at 9:12 AM, "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I'm not so sure that I'd go so far as to brand the POTUS a racist
> >>>>> as it's a
> >>>>> term that gets thrown around a little to casually, in my opinion.
> >>>>> I would,
> >>>>> however, like to know how you explain his standing in front of the
> >>>>> nation
> >>>>> and stating up front that he doesn't know the whole story with
> >>>>> regard to his
> >>>>> pal Henry Gates and Cambridge police sergeant James Crowley and
> >>>>> yet went so
> >>>>> far as to characterize law enforcements actions as "behaving
> >>>>> stupidly?" How
> >>>>> many other decisions does the man reach without being fully
> >>>>> informed?
> >>>>> Judging from other remarks I've heard him make I'd venture to say
> >>>>> Cap and
> >>>>> Trade and National Health Care might fall squarely into that same
> >>>>> category.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> g
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> >>>>> To: "Moscow Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 5:41 AM
> >>>>> Subject: [Vision2020] Say What?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> "This president, I think, has exposed himself as a guy, over and
> >>>>>> over and
> >>>>>> over again, who has a deep-seated hatred for white people or the
> >>>>>> white
> >>>>>> culture, I don't know what it is. I'm not saying that he
> >>>>>> doesn't like
> >>>>>> white people. I'm saying he has a problem. This guy is, I
> >>>>>> believe, a
> >>>>>> racist.''
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> - Glenn Beck on President Obama (July 28, 2009)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIZDnpPafaA
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -----------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Seeya round town, Moscow.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Tom Hansen
> >>>>>> Moscow, Idaho
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it
> >>>>>> to change
> >>>>>> and the Realist adjusts his sails."
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> - Unknown
> >>>>>>
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