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He proved he lived there. Being rude in your own house is not an arrestable offense. What kind of police state do you want to live in?<br><br>Sunil<br><br>> Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:20:40 -0700<br>> From: lfalen@turbonet.com<br>> To: bear@moscow.com<br>> CC: vision2020@moscow.com<br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?<br>> <br>> That is right, he was. The officer was responding to a potential burglary. Gates should have been appreciative. Instead he was verbally abusive.<br>> Roger<br>> -----Original message-----<br>> From: Wayne Price bear@moscow.com<br>> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:05:10 -0700<br>> To: lfalen lfalen@turbonet.com<br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?<br>> <br>> > Roger,<br>> > <br>> > But he was in HIS OWN HOUSE!<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > On Jul 29, 2009, at 10:57 AM, lfalen wrote:<br>> > <br>> > > I think thar you are missing the point. Gate was belligerent from <br>> > > the git go before he finally identified himself. He at first <br>> > > refused to do so. He was arrested for verbal abuse of a police <br>> > > officer, not for burglary. If a black cop came to my house after I <br>> > > had locked myself out I would thank him for doing his job. About 20 <br>> > > years ago when I was the Feed Plant Manager for Whitman County <br>> > > Grower I was working late one night, trying to finish up the monthly <br>> > > billings. I had turned off the lights and went to sleep in a <br>> > > sleeping bag. It was about 2:00 AM when a search light was shined in <br>> > > the window. A bull horn said " come out of there with your hands up" <br>> > > I said " as soon as I get my pants on". I identified myself telling <br>> > > them what I was doing and they went on their way.<br>> > > Roger<br>> > ><br>> > > -----Original message-----<br>> > > From: Joe Campbell philosopher.joe@gmail.com<br>> > > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 07:41:30 -0700<br>> > > To: "g. crabtree" jampot@roadrunner.com<br>> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?<br>> > ><br>> > >> Look it up yourself. You don't trust my sources anyway! Trust me, I'm<br>> > >> not going to waste my time trying to convince you of anything. I'm<br>> > >> just here to note your errors.<br>> > >><br>> > >> Of course Gates could and should have handled it better. But once <br>> > >> the<br>> > >> ID was shown, the officer should have left. His services were no<br>> > >> longer needed. Everything after that point was a waste of taxpayer<br>> > >> dollars, something you usually care a lot about -- though it is not<br>> > >> surprising you ignore it when it suits you. That is your MO.<br>> > >><br>> > >> Sent from my iPhone<br>> > >><br>> > >> On Jul 29, 2009, at 10:25 AM, "g. crabtree" <jampot@roadrunner.com><br>> > >> wrote:<br>> > >><br>> > >>> I failed to note it because I'm fairly sure that it didn't happen.<br>> > >>> Please provide a link to BHO's apology to either Sgt. Crowley or the<br>> > >>> Cambridge P.D.<br>> > >>><br>> > >>> Having actually read the police report, it's clear that had Gates<br>> > >>> simply and calmly shown his I.D. the officer would have left. It was<br>> > >>> Gates who continued to aggressively engage Sgt Crowley with demands<br>> > >>> and threats. Was Gates' arrest required? Probably not but, there is<br>> > >>> no question but what the professor was the one that was behaving<br>> > >>> stupidly.<br>> > >>><br>> > >>> g<br>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Campbell" <philosopher.joe@gmail.com<br>> > >>>><br>> > >>> To: "g. crabtree" <jampot@roadrunner.com><br>> > >>> Cc: "Tom Hansen" <thansen@moscow.com>; "Moscow Vision 2020" <vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > >>>><br>> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 6:41 AM<br>> > >>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What?<br>> > >>><br>> > >>><br>> > >>>> If someone came to your house thinking you broke in and you showed<br>> > >>>> him ID proving you lived there and he didn't leave immediately,<br>> > >>>> I'd say he acted stupidly -- even if you took the race elements<br>> > >>>> out of it. As it turns out, Obama even said he was sorry, which of<br>> > >>>> course you failed to note.<br>> > >>>><br>> > >>>> Not that any of this will convince you.<br>> > >>>><br>> > >>>> Sent from my iPhone<br>> > >>>><br>> > >>>> On Jul 29, 2009, at 9:12 AM, "g. crabtree" <jampot@roadrunner.com><br>> > >>>> wrote:<br>> > >>>><br>> > >>>>> I'm not so sure that I'd go so far as to brand the POTUS a racist<br>> > >>>>> as it's a<br>> > >>>>> term that gets thrown around a little to casually, in my opinion.<br>> > >>>>> I would,<br>> > >>>>> however, like to know how you explain his standing in front of the<br>> > >>>>> nation<br>> > >>>>> and stating up front that he doesn't know the whole story with<br>> > >>>>> regard to his<br>> > >>>>> pal Henry Gates and Cambridge police sergeant James Crowley and<br>> > >>>>> yet went so<br>> > >>>>> far as to characterize law enforcements actions as "behaving<br>> > >>>>> stupidly?" How<br>> > >>>>> many other decisions does the man reach without being fully<br>> > >>>>> informed?<br>> > >>>>> Judging from other remarks I've heard him make I'd venture to say<br>> > >>>>> Cap and<br>> > >>>>> Trade and National Health Care might fall squarely into that same<br>> > >>>>> category.<br>> > >>>>><br>> > >>>>> g<br>> > >>>>> ----- Original Message -----<br>> > >>>>> From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen@moscow.com><br>> > >>>>> To: "Moscow Vision 2020" <vision2020@moscow.com><br>> > >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 5:41 AM<br>> > >>>>> Subject: [Vision2020] Say What?<br>> > >>>>><br>> > >>>>><br>> > >>>>>> "This president, I think, has exposed himself as a guy, over and<br>> > >>>>>> over and<br>> > >>>>>> over again, who has a deep-seated hatred for white people or the<br>> > >>>>>> white<br>> > >>>>>> culture, I don't know what it is. I'm not saying that he<br>> > >>>>>> doesn't like<br>> > >>>>>> white people. I'm saying he has a problem. This guy is, I<br>> > >>>>>> believe, a<br>> > >>>>>> racist.''<br>> > >>>>>><br>> > >>>>>> - Glenn Beck on President Obama (July 28, 2009)<br>> > >>>>>><br>> > >>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIZDnpPafaA<br>> > >>>>>><br>> > >>>>>> -----------------------------------------------<br>> > >>>>>><br>> > >>>>>> Seeya round town, Moscow.<br>> > >>>>>><br>> > >>>>>> Tom Hansen<br>> > >>>>>> Moscow, Idaho<br>> > >>>>>><br>> > >>>>>> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects it<br>> > >>>>>> to change<br>> > >>>>>> and the Realist adjusts his sails."<br>> > >>>>>><br>> > >>>>>> - Unknown<br>> > >>>>>><br>> > >>>>>><br>> > >>>>>> =======================================================<br>> > >>>>>> List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>> > >>>>>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br>> > >>>>>> http://www.fsr.net<br>> > >>>>>> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > >>>>>> =======================================================<br>> > >>>>>><br>> > >>>>><br>> > >>>>><br>> > >>>>> =======================================================<br>> > >>>>> List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>> > >>>>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br>> > >>>>> http://www.fsr.net<br>> > >>>>> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > >>>>> =======================================================<br>> > >>><br>> > >>><br>> > >><br>> > >> =======================================================<br>> > >> List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>> > >> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br>> > >> http://www.fsr.net<br>> > >> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > >> =======================================================<br>> > ><br>> > > =======================================================<br>> > > List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>> > > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br>> > > http://www.fsr.net<br>> > > mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> > > =======================================================<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> <br>> =======================================================<br>> List services made available by First Step Internet, <br>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <br>> http://www.fsr.net <br>> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> =======================================================<br></body>
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