[Vision2020] Who said . . .

[Carl Westberg]

Well, all I know is if "doing well in school is perceived as a feminine trait", as quoted in an  earlier post, and judging by my academic track record, I'm as macho as a guy can possibly be.   Carl Westberg Jr.

> From: jampot at roadrunner.com
> To: philosopher.joe at gmail.com
> Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 15:52:25 -0700
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Who said . . .
> 
> My point, fading or otherwise, was quite simple. Hanson claimed that he had 
> "NEVER heard or read the "taunt" that "doing well in school is a white 
> trait." I was merely pointing out that someone, whose opinion I would 
> presume he might respect, had. Nothing more and nothing less, no 
> editorializing as to whether there was any merit to the claim or not. I am 
> laboring under the assumption that the president has slightly more expertise 
> in this particular field then hansen does.
> 
> g
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joe Campbell" <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
> To: "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>
> Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>; "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 3:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Who said . . .
> 
> 
> > Obama calls this "slander".
> >
> > And your point ... (fades off into the distance ...)
> >
> > Joe Campbell
> >
> > On Apr 19, 2009, at 1:14 PM, "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>  wrote:
> >
> >> "I NEVER heard or read that if a black student excelled  academically, 
> >> (s)he
> >> was doing the white thing."
> >>
> >> Go into any inner-city neighborhood, and folks will tell you that 
> >> government
> >> alone can't teach kids to learn. They know that parents have to  parent, 
> >> that
> >> children can't achieve unless we raise their expectations and turn  off 
> >> the
> >> television sets and eradicate the slander that says a black youth  with a
> >> book is acting white."
> >>   -Barack Obama, Keynote Address, Democratic National Convention, 2004
> >>
> >> Apparently BHO has.
> >>
> >> g
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> >> To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >> Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 12:22 PM
> >> Subject: [Vision2020] Who said . . .
> >>
> >>
> >>> Pop Quiz Time . . .
> >>>
> >>> A local blahster stated (in his words, and his words alone),  so . . . 
> >>> who
> >>> said:
> >>>
> >>> "The current theory is that boys are failing in school because  doing 
> >>> well
> >>> in school is perceived as a feminine trait, prompting the 'You're  so 
> >>> gay'
> >>> harassment.
> >>>
> >>> It's similar to the taunt among African-Americans that doing well in
> >>> school is a white trait."
> >>>
> >>> --------------
> >>>
> >>> V-peeps:  I am 57 years old.  I have attended public schools in Los
> >>> Angeles and North Idaho.  While attending these public schools I  NEVER
> >>> heard or read the "taunt" that "doing well in school is a white  trait."
> >>>
> >>> During my 20-year tenure in the United States Army, which included  five
> >>> CONUS (Continental United States) assignments (from Fort Dix, New 
> >>> Jersey
> >>> to Presidio of San Francisco, California) and six overseas  assignments
> >>> (four in Germany, one in South Korea, and one in Vietnam), I NEVER 
> >>> heard
> >>> or read the "taunt" that "doing well in school is a white trait."
> >>>
> >>> I have heard and read of incidents where members of minorities were
> >>> excluded from admission to certain public facilities.  But I NEVER 
> >>> heard
> >>> or read that if a black student excelled academically, (s)he was  doing 
> >>> the
> >>> white thing.
> >>>
> >>> But, then there are a couple local private schools here in
> >>> Vandalville . . . Perhaps those are the schools to which this  blahgster
> >>> refers.
> >>>
> >>> Thoughts?
> >>>
> >>> Tom Hansen
> >>> Moscow, Idaho
> >>>
> >>> "So keep fightin' for freedom and justice, beloveds, but don't  forget 
> >>> to
> >>> have fun doin' it.  Lord, let your laughter ring forth.  Be  outrageous,
> >>> ridicule the fraidy-cats, rejoice in all the oddities that freedom  can
> >>> produce.  And when you get through kickin' ass and celebratin' the 
> >>> sheer
> >>> joy of a good fight, be sure to tell those who come after how much  fun 
> >>> it
> >>> was."
> >>>
> >>> - Molly
> >>> Ivins
> >>>
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