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Well, all I know is if "doing well in school is perceived as a feminine trait", as quoted in an earlier post, and judging by my academic track record, I'm as macho as a guy can possibly be. Carl Westberg Jr.<br><br>> From: jampot@roadrunner.com<br>> To: philosopher.joe@gmail.com<br>> Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 15:52:25 -0700<br>> CC: vision2020@moscow.com<br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Who said . . .<br>> <br>> My point, fading or otherwise, was quite simple. Hanson claimed that he had <br>> "NEVER heard or read the "taunt" that "doing well in school is a white <br>> trait." I was merely pointing out that someone, whose opinion I would <br>> presume he might respect, had. Nothing more and nothing less, no <br>> editorializing as to whether there was any merit to the claim or not. I am <br>> laboring under the assumption that the president has slightly more expertise <br>> in this particular field then hansen does.<br>> <br>> g<br>> <br>> ----- Original Message ----- <br>> From: "Joe Campbell" <philosopher.joe@gmail.com><br>> To: "g. crabtree" <jampot@roadrunner.com><br>> Cc: <vision2020@moscow.com>; "Tom Hansen" <thansen@moscow.com><br>> Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 3:12 PM<br>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Who said . . .<br>> <br>> <br>> > Obama calls this "slander".<br>> ><br>> > And your point ... (fades off into the distance ...)<br>> ><br>> > Joe Campbell<br>> ><br>> > On Apr 19, 2009, at 1:14 PM, "g. crabtree" <jampot@roadrunner.com> wrote:<br>> ><br>> >> "I NEVER heard or read that if a black student excelled academically, <br>> >> (s)he<br>> >> was doing the white thing."<br>> >><br>> >> Go into any inner-city neighborhood, and folks will tell you that <br>> >> government<br>> >> alone can't teach kids to learn. They know that parents have to parent, <br>> >> that<br>> >> children can't achieve unless we raise their expectations and turn off <br>> >> the<br>> >> television sets and eradicate the slander that says a black youth with a<br>> >> book is acting white."<br>> >> -Barack Obama, Keynote Address, Democratic National Convention, 2004<br>> >><br>> >> Apparently BHO has.<br>> >><br>> >> g<br>> >> ----- Original Message -----<br>> >> From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen@moscow.com><br>> >> To: <vision2020@moscow.com><br>> >> Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 12:22 PM<br>> >> Subject: [Vision2020] Who said . . .<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >>> Pop Quiz Time . . .<br>> >>><br>> >>> A local blahster stated (in his words, and his words alone), so . . . <br>> >>> who<br>> >>> said:<br>> >>><br>> >>> "The current theory is that boys are failing in school because doing <br>> >>> well<br>> >>> in school is perceived as a feminine trait, prompting the 'You're so <br>> >>> gay'<br>> >>> harassment.<br>> >>><br>> >>> It's similar to the taunt among African-Americans that doing well in<br>> >>> school is a white trait."<br>> >>><br>> >>> --------------<br>> >>><br>> >>> V-peeps: I am 57 years old. I have attended public schools in Los<br>> >>> Angeles and North Idaho. While attending these public schools I NEVER<br>> >>> heard or read the "taunt" that "doing well in school is a white trait."<br>> >>><br>> >>> During my 20-year tenure in the United States Army, which included five<br>> >>> CONUS (Continental United States) assignments (from Fort Dix, New <br>> >>> Jersey<br>> >>> to Presidio of San Francisco, California) and six overseas assignments<br>> >>> (four in Germany, one in South Korea, and one in Vietnam), I NEVER <br>> >>> heard<br>> >>> or read the "taunt" that "doing well in school is a white trait."<br>> >>><br>> >>> I have heard and read of incidents where members of minorities were<br>> >>> excluded from admission to certain public facilities. But I NEVER <br>> >>> heard<br>> >>> or read that if a black student excelled academically, (s)he was doing <br>> >>> the<br>> >>> white thing.<br>> >>><br>> >>> But, then there are a couple local private schools here in<br>> >>> Vandalville . . . Perhaps those are the schools to which this blahgster<br>> >>> refers.<br>> >>><br>> >>> Thoughts?<br>> >>><br>> >>> Tom Hansen<br>> >>> Moscow, Idaho<br>> >>><br>> >>> "So keep fightin' for freedom and justice, beloveds, but don't forget <br>> >>> to<br>> >>> have fun doin' it. Lord, let your laughter ring forth. Be outrageous,<br>> >>> ridicule the fraidy-cats, rejoice in all the oddities that freedom can<br>> >>> produce. And when you get through kickin' ass and celebratin' the <br>> >>> sheer<br>> >>> joy of a good fight, be sure to tell those who come after how much fun <br>> >>> it<br>> >>> was."<br>> >>><br>> >>> - Molly<br>> >>> Ivins<br>> >>><br>> >>> ---------------------------------------------<br>> >>> This message was sent by First Step Internet.<br>> >>> http://www.fsr.com/<br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> --- <br>> >> --- <br>> >> --- <br>> >> --- <br>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >>> =======================================================<br>> >>> List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>> >>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br>> >>> http://www.fsr.net<br>> >>> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> >>> =======================================================<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> =======================================================<br>> >> List services made available by First Step Internet,<br>> >> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<br>> >> http://www.fsr.net<br>> >> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> >> =======================================================<br>> > <br>> <br>> <br>> =======================================================<br>> List services made available by First Step Internet, <br>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <br>> http://www.fsr.net <br>> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<br>> =======================================================<br><br /><hr />Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. <a href='http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_042009' target='_new'>Check it out.</a></body>
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