[Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question

keely emerinemix kjajmix1 at msn.com
Sat Apr 18 08:09:22 PDT 2009


I just wrote that we should start ignoring Donovan, and then I read this.

Wayne -- bear -- is a good friend of mine, far more intelligent, decent, and respectable (never mind respectful) than most people I've ever met.  Deciding to join in the discussion on Vision should not result in screaming, flailing, hair-grabbing tantrums like the one below.

And now I plan to -- plan to -- ignore Donovan.

Keely
http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/




Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 16:22:16 -0700
From: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
To: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com; bear at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question

Wayne,
 
It is obvious you aren't an attorney, I know you have to be able to pass law school and the bar, a feat far past your competence. But it is also obvious you have no spine by hiding behind a psuesdo handle. Even your so called friends have condemed the practice of using a false identity and attacking others. Although it might just be that they only condemn the practice when it happens to their friends and not others. Perhaps you can chalk up your dishonesty to defending the Constitution. I am sure you and Sunil can come up with some fantango language and explaination as to why your unethical behavior is really ethical. 
 
Reality is, Moscow is a small, tiny town, your emails leave an IP address footprint, I know your first name is Wayne, and I will eventually find out who you are.. There are other people that monitor this list that tell me who people are when they try this sort of thing.  You are not the first.
 
So you can either tell us now,or I will tell everybody later.  
 
Best Regards,
 
Donovan

--- On Fri, 4/17/09, bear at moscow.com <bear at moscow.com> wrote:


From: bear at moscow.com <bear at moscow.com>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question
To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>, "Sunil Ramalingam" <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>, "vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>, bear at moscow.com
Date: Friday, April 17, 2009, 3:46 PM


Been a long time since I was called out to the school yard like that Donovan! Many folks
on the 
list, and that read the list know me, and at this point, you have no idea how much
pleasure it 
gives me to frost your butt by you not knowing me and keeping you wondering!

And please, quit accusing Ralph Nielsen of being ME! And I have not attacked you any more 
than you have attacked others! As ye sow, so shall ye reep! Next thing you know, you'll
accuse 
me of being an attorney! LOL

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> Bear, Why don't you have the courage to use your real name? You attack me
p> ersonally, but do so cowardly behind anonymity? 
>  
> Best Regards,
>  
> Donovan
> 
> --- On Fri, 4/17/09, bear at moscow.com <bear at moscow.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: bear at moscow.com <bear at moscow.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question
> To: "Sunil Ramalingam" <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>, "vision 2020"
<vision> 2020 at moscow.com>
> Date: Friday, April 17, 2009, 11:05 AM
> 
>
 
> Sunil,
> 
> I guess what bothers me the most about it becoming a personal attack
agains> t you as
> opposed 
> to a vigorous argument against what the issue at hand is.
> 
> He seems to think that defense lawyers should not defend clients with
vigor>  or use all of
> the 
> tools that are provided by law, which WOULD make them snakes!  Why don't
> people realize
> that 
> the most vile offenders are the ones that need a zealous defense the most,
> and that's the
> way 
> the system is designed to work! Just because you defend a client, doesn't
m> ean you condone
> 
> what they are alleged to have done, nor do you share the same beliefs! 
> 
> AND, it seems based on the last election here in Latah County, that the
Peo> ple of Latah
> County 
> have no problem with the results of the prosecution
 of the child molester
c> ase that he is
> so 
> upset about. We just had an election back in November and there was a
choic> e between a new
> 
> county prosecutor  or the same one that was involved in the child
moleste> r case. The
> People  
> spoke and are happy with the ability of a child molester to walk the
street> s, or they
> would have 
> changed the elected officer that enabled that.
> 
> And as far as the sun rising in the east is concerned, it shouldn't!
Doesn'> t God know that
> means 
> the sun comes up over the  slave owning, wife beating, 8 year old bride
m> arrying Moslems 
> first? They should be denied sun until they change their evil ways! *S*
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------> --
--
> > Typical, and predictable as the sun rising in the East.
 When Donovan is
> w> rong he can't admit it, and if I call him on it he will launch into this
> > slimy attack. Kind of like a jellyfish.
> > 
> > He's an interesting case study.  The prolapse has clearly extruded his
> enti> re brain, yet he retains sufficient coordination to operate a
keyboar> d.
> > 
> > Sunil
> > 
> > Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 08:28:46 -0700
> > From: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question
> > To: vision2020 at moscow.com; sunilramalingam at hotmail.com;
> thansen at moscow.> com; bear at moscow.com
> > 
> > Sorry, I disagree. 
> >  
> > I do agree with what the Ten Commandments say. But I think lots of people
> d> isagree with what the Ten Commandments intend and imply. 
> >  
> > What I think is a crock is their release. The reality is, child
> molesters>  are free, in part, because of the actions of Sunil. You can
c> all it
> wh> atever you want, blame it on anyone else, but that is the reality. 
> >  
> > And I would not be calling the release of child molesters, "due
> process.">  That term is such an injustice to the victims of these
people> , or shall
> > I
 call these child molesters, at the risk of offending some liberals on
> h> ere, monsters. 
> >  
> > Best Regards,
> >  
> > Donovan
> > 
> > --- On Fri, 4/17/09, bear at moscow.com <bear at moscow.com> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > From: bear at moscow.com <bear at moscow.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question
> > To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>, "vision 2020"
> <visio> n2020 at moscow.com>, "Sunil Ramalingam"
<sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>> ,
> "T> om Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> > Date: Friday, April 17, 2009, 8:11 AM
> > 
> > 
> > Donovan, What a CROCK! 
> > 
> > First you don't believe what the Ten Commandments say, and now you don't
> > like the way the 
> > law works!
 IF I read the court documents correctly, there was a JUDGE
> tha> t released him,
> > not 
> > Sunil! I am sorry that the State of Idaho, as represented by a
> prosecutor>  didn't prove
> > his/her 
> > case that the individual was a threat to society. You're pointing the
> finge> r in the WRONG 
> > direction on how the legal system worked in this case!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
_________________________________________________________________________> __> 
> _________________
> > > Hansen,
> > >  
> > > Certainly not a lawyer with a forked tongue that misleads people to
dra> w
> > > the wrong conclusions and to free child molesters.   
> > > The child molester can at least claim mental illness for this
> endangermen>
 t
> > > of children. But what can Sunil claim? 
> > > I remember, if my memory
> >  serves me correctly, at how angry Hansen was that
> > > our local child molester of an eight year old girl, was allowed to
> driv> e,
> > w> ithout supervision, to Lewiston. Guess who was, in part,
> responsib> le for
> > > his release into the Moscow Public?  
> > > Best Regards,
> > >  
> > > Donovan 
> > > 
> > > --- On Fri, 4/17/09, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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