[Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question

g. crabtree jampot at roadrunner.com
Fri Apr 17 17:30:01 PDT 2009


Far be it from me to get all Sherlock Holmes on anyone but, didn't this guy "sign" his original post to the V Wayne M. Price? Really not a very diligent attempt at being the anonymous provocateur was it?

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Donovan Arnold 
  To: Sunil Ramalingam ; vision 2020 ; bear at moscow.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 4:22 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question


        Wayne,

        It is obvious you aren't an attorney, I know you have to be able to pass law school and the bar, a feat far past your competence. But it is also obvious you have no spine by hiding behind a psuesdo handle. Even your so called friends have condemed the practice of using a false identity and attacking others. Although it might just be that they only condemn the practice when it happens to their friends and not others. Perhaps you can chalk up your dishonesty to defending the Constitution. I am sure you and Sunil can come up with some fantango language and explaination as to why your unethical behavior is really ethical. 

        Reality is, Moscow is a small, tiny town, your emails leave an IP address footprint, I know your first name is Wayne, and I will eventually find out who you are.. There are other people that monitor this list that tell me who people are when they try this sort of thing.  You are not the first.

        So you can either tell us now,or I will tell everybody later.  

        Best Regards,

        Donovan

        --- On Fri, 4/17/09, bear at moscow.com <bear at moscow.com> wrote:


          From: bear at moscow.com <bear at moscow.com>
          Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question
          To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>, "Sunil Ramalingam" <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>, "vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>, bear at moscow.com
          Date: Friday, April 17, 2009, 3:46 PM


          Been a long time since I was called out to the school yard like that Donovan! Many folks
          on the 
          list, and that read the list know me, and at this point, you have no idea how much
          pleasure it 
          gives me to frost your butt by you not knowing me and keeping you wondering!

          And please, quit accusing Ralph Nielsen of being ME! And I have not attacked you any more 
          than you have attacked others! As ye sow, so shall ye reep! Next thing you know, you'll
          accuse 
          me of being an attorney! LOL

          --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
          > Bear, Why don't you have the courage to use your real name? You attack me
          p> ersonally, but do so cowardly behind anonymity? 
          >  
          > Best Regards,
          >  
          > Donovan
          > 
          > --- On Fri, 4/17/09, bear at moscow.com <bear at moscow.com> wrote:
          > 
          > 
          > From: bear at moscow.com <bear at moscow.com>
          > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question
          > To: "Sunil Ramalingam" <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>, "vision 2020"
          <vision> 2020 at moscow.com>
          > Date: Friday, April 17, 2009, 11:05 AM
          > 
          > 
          > Sunil,
          > 
          > I guess what bothers me the most about it becoming a personal attack
          agains> t you as
          > opposed 
          > to a vigorous argument against what the issue at hand is.
          > 
          > He seems to think that defense lawyers should not defend clients with
          vigor>  or use all of
          > the 
          > tools that are provided by law, which WOULD make them snakes!  Why don't
          > people realize
          > that 
          > the most vile offenders are the ones that need a zealous defense the most,
          > and that's the
          > way 
          > the system is designed to work! Just because you defend a client, doesn't
          m> ean you condone
          > 
          > what they are alleged to have done, nor do you share the same beliefs! 
          > 
          > AND, it seems based on the last election here in Latah County, that the
          Peo> ple of Latah
          > County 
          > have no problem with the results of the prosecution of the child molester
          c> ase that he is
          > so 
          > upset about. We just had an election back in November and there was a
          choic> e between a new
          > 
          > county prosecutor  or the same one that was involved in the child
          moleste> r case. The
          > People  
          > spoke and are happy with the ability of a child molester to walk the
          street> s, or they
          > would have 
          > changed the elected officer that enabled that.
          > 
          > And as far as the sun rising in the east is concerned, it shouldn't!
          Doesn'> t God know that
          > means 
          > the sun comes up over the  slave owning, wife beating, 8 year old bride
          m> arrying Moslems 
          > first? They should be denied sun until they change their evil ways! *S*
          > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------> --
          --
          > > Typical, and predictable as the sun rising in the East. When Donovan is
          > w> rong he can't admit it, and if I call him on it he will launch into this
          > > slimy attack. Kind of like a jellyfish.
          > > 
          > > He's an interesting case study.  The prolapse has clearly extruded his
          > enti> re brain, yet he retains sufficient coordination to operate a
          keyboar> d.
          > > 
          > > Sunil
          > > 
          > > Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 08:28:46 -0700
          > > From: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
          > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question
          > > To: vision2020 at moscow.com; sunilramalingam at hotmail.com;
          > thansen at moscow.> com; bear at moscow.com
          > > 
          > > Sorry, I disagree. 
          > >  
          > > I do agree with what the Ten Commandments say. But I think lots of people
          > d> isagree with what the Ten Commandments intend and imply. 
          > >  
          > > What I think is a crock is their release. The reality is, child
          > molesters>  are free, in part, because of the actions of Sunil. You can
          c> all it
          > wh> atever you want, blame it on anyone else, but that is the reality. 
          > >  
          > > And I would not be calling the release of child molesters, "due
          > process.">  That term is such an injustice to the victims of these
          people> , or shall
          > > I call these child molesters, at the risk of offending some liberals on
          > h> ere, monsters. 
          > >  
          > > Best Regards,
          > >  
          > > Donovan
          > > 
          > > --- On Fri, 4/17/09, bear at moscow.com <bear at moscow.com> wrote:
          > > 
          > > 
          > > From: bear at moscow.com <bear at moscow.com>
          > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] BACK to the Original Question
          > > To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>, "vision 2020"
          > <visio> n2020 at moscow.com>, "Sunil Ramalingam"
          <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>> ,
          > "T> om Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
          > > Date: Friday, April 17, 2009, 8:11 AM
          > > 
          > > 
          > > Donovan, What a CROCK! 
          > > 
          > > First you don't believe what the Ten Commandments say, and now you don't
          > > like the way the 
          > > law works! IF I read the court documents correctly, there was a JUDGE
          > tha> t released him,
          > > not 
          > > Sunil! I am sorry that the State of Idaho, as represented by a
          > prosecutor>  didn't prove
          > > his/her 
          > > case that the individual was a threat to society. You're pointing the
          > finge> r in the WRONG 
          > > direction on how the legal system worked in this case!
          > > 
          > > 
          > > 
          > > 
          > >
          _________________________________________________________________________> __> 
          > _________________
          > > > Hansen,
          > > >  
          > > > Certainly not a lawyer with a forked tongue that misleads people to
          dra> w
          > > > the wrong conclusions and to free child molesters.   
          > > > The child molester can at least claim mental illness for this
          > endangermen> t
          > > > of children. But what can Sunil claim? 
          > > > I remember, if my memory
          > >  serves me correctly, at how angry Hansen was that
          > > > our local child molester of an eight year old girl, was allowed to
          > driv> e,
          > > w> ithout supervision, to Lewiston. Guess who was, in part,
          > responsib> le for
          > > > his release into the Moscow Public?  
          > > > Best Regards,
          > > >  
          > > > Donovan 
          > > > 
          > > > --- On Fri, 4/17/09, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
          > > > 
          > > > 
          > > 
          > > 
          > > 
          > 
          > 
          > 
          > 
          > 
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