[Vision2020] 9/11

[keely emerinemix]

Interesting that Andreas mentions Doug Coe, leader of The Family, often called The Fellowship, a shadowy, pseudo evangelical powercenter operating throughout the world with a credo of "Jesus + nothing" that somehow uses the Savior as a means to draw out rich and powerful despots to accomplish GOP will.

I just traded a book, "The Family," into Bookpeople -- it's chilling, well-documented, and supports much of what Andreas says below.

Keely
http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/


> Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 20:59:02 -0700
> From: ophite at gmail.com
> To: jeffh at moscow.com
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] 9/11
> 
> > Throw out the barb - then duck the issue.
> > Here is a Wikipedia link to 911 conspiracy theories. You might find it
> > informative.
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theories
> >
> >> > It is modern history and yet, already we have groups within our borders
> >> > which attempt to persuade us that 911 was a government conspiracy.  '
> >>
> >> Don't look at me. Look across the water in Minneapolis, at the Ron
> >> Paul paraconvention.
> >
> > Same old name calling - an example of your basic human decency?
> 
> Jeff --
> 
> I was unaware that the majority of Americans needed to be reminded
> that al-Qaeda was responsible for 9/11, or that those people would be
> impressed by a video displayed at the Republican National Convention
> during a presidential candidate's speech. There are Americans that
> deny the Holocaust. There are Americans deny that we landed on the
> moon.
> 
> Those people weren't at the Democratic convention.
> 
> Or, well, they were. But they were throwing bricks at us. Same guys
> showed up in St. Paul this year, too, plus the Paulites.
> 
> >> > And the notion that political parties should not utilize video to engage
> >> > Americans
> >> > in a reminder of the event is naive at best.
> >>
> >> The notion that a political party should not use a great American
> >> tragedy as a political cudgel is basic human decency, a concept about
> >> which your Torture Party seems to have entirely forgotten.
> >> Unfortunately, after the last six years, it appears to be naive to
> >> expect them not to.
> >
> > Oh, I was on the record for each of those things ... where were you?
> >
> >> > And your hypocrisy is so blatant - your "world view" is so skewed.
> >> >  Where is
> >> > your "outrage" at the bilge spewed by Michael Moore. Why have you not
> >> > condemned MoveOn.org for their endorsement of his film during the 2004
> >> > presidential campaign.
> >>
> >> Not this again. Here, let me give the 'condemn this!' game a try. Why
> >> haven't I ever heard you condemn the Watergate break-in? Isn't it a
> >> little suspicious that you've never said anything negative about the
> >> Holocaust? Where's your outrage at Swift Boat Veterans for Truth?
> >>
> >> Now, Jeff, why aren't you on the record saying anything bad about any
> >> of these things? Hint: it wasn't the topic of our conversation*.
> >
> > Given your feelings about the opening video for the RNC, it would perhaps
> > enlightening for you to view the Fahrenheit 911 movie and its role in the
> > 2004 elections.
> >
> > And if you are not a member of MoveOn.org, are you aware of it and its role
> > in advancing the candidacy of Barack Obama?
> 
> Sure. Great. Are you aware of G. Gordon Liddy and his role in
> advancing the candidacy of John McCain? How about the role of Sun
> Myung Moon? Or, hell, Jack Abramoff? Doug Coe? Luis Posada? John
> Poindexter? The American Issues Project? There is a broad miscellany
> of cult leaders, smear artists, traitors, terrorists, and felons
> supporting the Republican party this year. As there is every year.
> 
> You might notice that this list is composed of supporters whom McCain
> hasn't taken the time to condemn. This is, of course, because the
> country is divided roughly in half, and the parties representing each
> half pretty much divide the assholes between them. I'm not going to
> speak for the whole party (here's a name: Wen Ho Lee), but Obama has,
> for instance, cut off personal access to major donors to MoveOn. Has
> McCain done something similar for (let's say) the American Issues
> Project*?
> 
> -- ACS
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