[Vision2020] Obama cancels interview with a Free (not in the tank) Press
Andreas Schou
ophite at gmail.com
Sun Oct 26 10:45:31 PDT 2008
NW --
Let me get this straight. You're a Hillary Clinton voter that's against
abortion, social programs, progressive taxation, and you're for war on Iran
and against an Iraq pullout?
-- ACS
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 8:06 AM, No Weatherman <no.weatherman at gmail.com>wrote:
> Paul:
>
> We need to make distinctions between "the war" and the "tanking
> economy" and the "crackheads and welfare queens."
>
> Obama wants to end the war, grease his homeboys on Wall Street, and
> reward the crackheads and welfare queens in ACORN, and he wants the
> middle class to pay for it.
>
> It's immoral, however, to argue that the "rich" have to pay for these
> things because they "stand to lose more without facing hunger or
> eviction or having their power turned off."
>
> Where do you get off playing with other people's money? Would you
> appreciate it if I had the power to take money from you because I
> think you can afford the hit?
>
> It's called theft.
>
> If you believe society has a moral obligation to help others out, then
> you can go to work in a soup kitchen after you give all your money to
> the Salvation Army.
>
> And don't complain because you can afford it. I know this because I deemed
> it.
>
> How does it feel now?
>
> Once answer this question, we can begin discussing the merits and
> necessities of various social programs. But if we let the majority
> decide they want to loot the minority's wealth, we'll be forced to
> ask, "Who is John Galt?"
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 7:06 AM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > No Weatherman wrote:
> >>
> >> Chas:
> >>
> >> Ummmm.
> >>
> >> It's always easier to play poker with someone else's chips.
> >>
> >> Someday, if you're ever rakin in the dough, you'll resent the
> >> government confiscating your hard earned money to finance crackheads
> >> and welfare queens.
> >>
> >
> > Is it somehow better for the middle class to finance the "crackheads and
> > welfare queens"? That's what it comes down to. Someone has to pay for
> this
> > war and the after effects of a tanking economy. Who does it make more
> sense
> > to tax more? The richest of the bunch who can stand to lose more without
> > facing hunger or eviction or having their power turned off, or the
> majority
> > of people that are just trying to make it from paycheck to paycheck?
> >
> > I think the system is better when it tries to help people who are down on
> > their luck, despite the fact that some people abuse the system. Not
> > everyone believes that having wealth means you're any better of a person
> > than not having it. You're just luckier. When fate deals you a rotten
> > hand, even temporarily, it's in society's best interests to help you
> through
> > it.
> >
> > Of course, no one knows even remotely how much you make and which
> financial
> > camp you fall in, because no one knows who you are.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >>
> >> On 10/25/08, Chasuk <chasuk at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 17:07, No Weatherman <no.weatherman at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > West wondered about Sen. Barack Obama's comment, to Joe the Plumber,
> >>> > about spreading the wealth. She quoted Karl Marx and asked how Obama
> >>> > isn't being a Marxist with the "spreading the wealth" comment.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> We already spread the wealth. It's called taxes. Obama is merely
> >>> proposing spreading the wealth more equitably.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
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