[Vision2020] An Obama Dilemma

[Kai Eiselein, Editor]

Secession is the highest form of dissent.

 
From: Tom Hansen 
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 10:55 AM
To: Andreas Schou ; No Weatherman 
Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com 
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] An Obama Dilemma


"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism."
 
- Thomas Jefferson
 
 
 
Seeya round town, Moscow.
 
Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho





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> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 10:25:28 -0700
> From: ophite at gmail.com
> To: no.weatherman at gmail.com
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] An Obama Dilemma
> 
> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 7:34 AM, No Weatherman <no.weatherman at gmail.com> wrote:
> > ACS,
> >
> > You're the one who cannot (or will not) distinguish between domestic
> > terrorism and vandalism:
> 
> This is ironic, coming from someone who cannot (or will not)
> distinguish between treason and patriotism.
> 
> > http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2008-September/056263.html
> 
> "Terrorist" describes their goals: they were attempting to change
> policies through use of public fear. "Vandalism" describes their
> methods: they did property damage, and didn't kill anyone other than
> -- incompetently -- themselves. Ex post facto, they claimed that they
> were going to step up and start killing people, but they didn't
> actually do that; that may be conspiracy commit murder. Incidentally,
> that's also what G. Gordon Liddy did with regard to Jack Anderson.
> 
> Incidentally, I don't see that you've made any further defense of your
> assertion that Liddy was a great patriot.
> 
> > Therefore, it's slightly ironic that you would try to impeach law
> > professor Steve Diamond based upon your understanding of grantee
> > agencies.
> 
> As a former nonprofit executive, I'm quite aware of what the fiduciary
> duties of such an executive are. They do not involve the selection of
> a nonprofit board: the board must be selected independently of the
> executive. Incidentally, the CAC did this the opposite way most
> nonprofits do it: usually, the president forms a board, then hires an
> executive. I suspect it was done this way because Ayers, as a
> potential grantee, *could not* be president of the board.
> 
> > Interestingly, I noticed that you ignored this salient point from Diamond:
> >
> > "In social science and law, written contemporaneous records are
> > considered a more credible source than ex post recollections by only a
> > small number of the individuals involved. I thought the same standards
> > applied in journalism as well."
> 
> Incidentally, Diamond's "evidence" takes this form: "Bill Ayers had
> an executive role at CAC; that executive role conferred a fiduciary
> duty on him; that fiduciary duty must have given him a primary role in
> selecting the board of directors; Ayers must have selected Obama,
> QED."
> 
> This is convincing to anyone without a whit of knowledge regarding
> nonprofit boards. The board of directors cannot be selected by someone
> with a financial stake in the nonprofit; doing so creates an inherent
> conflict of interest. The operative section of the tax code is here:
> 
> "A section 501(c)(3) organization must not be organized or operated
> for the benefit of private interests, such as the creator or the
> creator's family, shareholders of the organization, other designated
> individuals, or persons controlled directly or indirectly by such
> private interests. No part of the net earnings of a section 501(c)(3)
> organization may inure to the benefit of any private shareholder or
> individual. A private shareholder or individual is a person having a
> personal and private interest in the activities of the organization."
> 
> -- ACS
> 
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