[Vision2020] An Obama Dilemma

[Tom Hansen]

"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism."
 
- Thomas Jefferson
 
 
 
Seeya round town, Moscow.
 
Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho



> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 10:25:28 -0700> From: ophite at gmail.com> To: no.weatherman at gmail.com> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] An Obama Dilemma> > On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 7:34 AM, No Weatherman <no.weatherman at gmail.com> wrote:> > ACS,> >> > You're the one who cannot (or will not) distinguish between domestic> > terrorism and vandalism:> > This is ironic, coming from someone who cannot (or will not)> distinguish between treason and patriotism.> > > http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2008-September/056263.html> > "Terrorist" describes their goals: they were attempting to change> policies through use of public fear. "Vandalism" describes their> methods: they did property damage, and didn't kill anyone other than> -- incompetently -- themselves. Ex post facto, they claimed that they> were going to step up and start killing people, but they didn't> actually do that; that may be conspiracy commit murder. Incidentally,> that's also what G. Gordon Liddy did with regard to Jack Anderson.> > Incidentally, I don't see that you've made any further defense of your> assertion that Liddy was a great patriot.> > > Therefore, it's slightly ironic that you would try to impeach law> > professor Steve Diamond based upon your understanding of grantee> > agencies.> > As a former nonprofit executive, I'm quite aware of what the fiduciary> duties of such an executive are. They do not involve the selection of> a nonprofit board: the board must be selected independently of the> executive. Incidentally, the CAC did this the opposite way most> nonprofits do it: usually, the president forms a board, then hires an> executive. I suspect it was done this way because Ayers, as a> potential grantee, *could not* be president of the board.> > > Interestingly, I noticed that you ignored this salient point from Diamond:> >> > "In social science and law, written contemporaneous records are> > considered a more credible source than ex post recollections by only a> > small number of the individuals involved. I thought the same standards> > applied in journalism as well."> > Incidentally, Diamond's "evidence" takes this form: "Bill Ayers had> an executive role at CAC; that executive role conferred a fiduciary> duty on him; that fiduciary duty must have given him a primary role in> selecting the board of directors; Ayers must have selected Obama,> QED."> > This is convincing to anyone without a whit of knowledge regarding> nonprofit boards. The board of directors cannot be selected by someone> with a financial stake in the nonprofit; doing so creates an inherent> conflict of interest. The operative section of the tax code is here:> > "A section 501(c)(3) organization must not be organized or operated> for the benefit of private interests, such as the creator or the> creator's family, shareholders of the organization, other designated> individuals, or persons controlled directly or indirectly by such> private interests. No part of the net earnings of a section 501(c)(3)> organization may inure to the benefit of any private shareholder or> individual. A private shareholder or individual is a person having a> personal and private interest in the activities of the organization."> > -- ACS> > =======================================================> List services made available by First Step Internet, > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. > http://www.fsr.net > mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com> =======================================================
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