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<body class='hmmessage'>"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism."<BR>
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- Thomas Jefferson<BR>
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Seeya round town, Moscow.<BR>
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Tom Hansen<BR>
Moscow, Idaho<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 10:25:28 -0700<BR>> From: ophite@gmail.com<BR>> To: no.weatherman@gmail.com<BR>> CC: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] An Obama Dilemma<BR>> <BR>> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 7:34 AM, No Weatherman <no.weatherman@gmail.com> wrote:<BR>> > ACS,<BR>> ><BR>> > You're the one who cannot (or will not) distinguish between domestic<BR>> > terrorism and vandalism:<BR>> <BR>> This is ironic, coming from someone who cannot (or will not)<BR>> distinguish between treason and patriotism.<BR>> <BR>> > http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2008-September/056263.html<BR>> <BR>> "Terrorist" describes their goals: they were attempting to change<BR>> policies through use of public fear. "Vandalism" describes their<BR>> methods: they did property damage, and didn't kill anyone other than<BR>> -- incompetently -- themselves. Ex post facto, they claimed that they<BR>> were going to step up and start killing people, but they didn't<BR>> actually do that; that may be conspiracy commit murder. Incidentally,<BR>> that's also what G. Gordon Liddy did with regard to Jack Anderson.<BR>> <BR>> Incidentally, I don't see that you've made any further defense of your<BR>> assertion that Liddy was a great patriot.<BR>> <BR>> > Therefore, it's slightly ironic that you would try to impeach law<BR>> > professor Steve Diamond based upon your understanding of grantee<BR>> > agencies.<BR>> <BR>> As a former nonprofit executive, I'm quite aware of what the fiduciary<BR>> duties of such an executive are. They do not involve the selection of<BR>> a nonprofit board: the board must be selected independently of the<BR>> executive. Incidentally, the CAC did this the opposite way most<BR>> nonprofits do it: usually, the president forms a board, then hires an<BR>> executive. I suspect it was done this way because Ayers, as a<BR>> potential grantee, *could not* be president of the board.<BR>> <BR>> > Interestingly, I noticed that you ignored this salient point from Diamond:<BR>> ><BR>> > "In social science and law, written contemporaneous records are<BR>> > considered a more credible source than ex post recollections by only a<BR>> > small number of the individuals involved. I thought the same standards<BR>> > applied in journalism as well."<BR>> <BR>> Incidentally, Diamond's "evidence" takes this form: "Bill Ayers had<BR>> an executive role at CAC; that executive role conferred a fiduciary<BR>> duty on him; that fiduciary duty must have given him a primary role in<BR>> selecting the board of directors; Ayers must have selected Obama,<BR>> QED."<BR>> <BR>> This is convincing to anyone without a whit of knowledge regarding<BR>> nonprofit boards. The board of directors cannot be selected by someone<BR>> with a financial stake in the nonprofit; doing so creates an inherent<BR>> conflict of interest. The operative section of the tax code is here:<BR>> <BR>> "A section 501(c)(3) organization must not be organized or operated<BR>> for the benefit of private interests, such as the creator or the<BR>> creator's family, shareholders of the organization, other designated<BR>> individuals, or persons controlled directly or indirectly by such<BR>> private interests. No part of the net earnings of a section 501(c)(3)<BR>> organization may inure to the benefit of any private shareholder or<BR>> individual. A private shareholder or individual is a person having a<BR>> personal and private interest in the activities of the organization."<BR>> <BR>> -- ACS<BR>> <BR>> =======================================================<BR>> List services made available by First Step Internet, <BR>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <BR>> http://www.fsr.net <BR>> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> =======================================================<BR><BR></body>
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