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<DIV>Secession<FONT face="Times New Roman"> is the highest form of
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title="mailto:idahotom@hotmail.com CTRL + Click to follow link"
href="mailto:idahotom@hotmail.com">Tom Hansen</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 07, 2008 10:55 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=ophite@gmail.com href="mailto:ophite@gmail.com">Andreas
Schou</A> ; <A title=no.weatherman@gmail.com
href="mailto:no.weatherman@gmail.com">No Weatherman</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] An Obama Dilemma</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism."<BR> <BR>-
Thomas Jefferson<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR>Seeya round town,
Moscow.<BR> <BR>Tom Hansen<BR>Moscow, Idaho<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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<BR>> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 10:25:28 -0700<BR>> From: <A
href="mailto:ophite@gmail.com">ophite@gmail.com</A><BR>> To: <A
href="mailto:no.weatherman@gmail.com">no.weatherman@gmail.com</A><BR>> CC: <A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A><BR>> Subject:
Re: [Vision2020] An Obama Dilemma<BR>> <BR>> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 7:34
AM, No Weatherman <<A
href="mailto:no.weatherman@gmail.com">no.weatherman@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>> > ACS,<BR>> ><BR>> > You're the one who cannot (or
will not) distinguish between domestic<BR>> > terrorism and
vandalism:<BR>> <BR>> This is ironic, coming from someone who cannot (or
will not)<BR>> distinguish between treason and patriotism.<BR>> <BR>>
>
http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2008-September/056263.html<BR>>
<BR>> "Terrorist" describes their goals: they were attempting to
change<BR>> policies through use of public fear. "Vandalism" describes
their<BR>> methods: they did property damage, and didn't kill anyone other
than<BR>> -- incompetently -- themselves. Ex post facto, they claimed that
they<BR>> were going to step up and start killing people, but they
didn't<BR>> actually do that; that may be conspiracy commit murder.
Incidentally,<BR>> that's also what G. Gordon Liddy did with regard to Jack
Anderson.<BR>> <BR>> Incidentally, I don't see that you've made any
further defense of your<BR>> assertion that Liddy was a great
patriot.<BR>> <BR>> > Therefore, it's slightly ironic that you would
try to impeach law<BR>> > professor Steve Diamond based upon your
understanding of grantee<BR>> > agencies.<BR>> <BR>> As a former
nonprofit executive, I'm quite aware of what the fiduciary<BR>> duties of
such an executive are. They do not involve the selection of<BR>> a nonprofit
board: the board must be selected independently of the<BR>> executive.
Incidentally, the CAC did this the opposite way most<BR>> nonprofits do it:
usually, the president forms a board, then hires an<BR>> executive. I suspect
it was done this way because Ayers, as a<BR>> potential grantee, *could not*
be president of the board.<BR>> <BR>> > Interestingly, I noticed that
you ignored this salient point from Diamond:<BR>> ><BR>> > "In
social science and law, written contemporaneous records are<BR>> >
considered a more credible source than ex post recollections by only a<BR>>
> small number of the individuals involved. I thought the same
standards<BR>> > applied in journalism as well."<BR>> <BR>>
Incidentally, Diamond's "evidence" takes this form: "Bill Ayers had<BR>> an
executive role at CAC; that executive role conferred a fiduciary<BR>> duty on
him; that fiduciary duty must have given him a primary role in<BR>> selecting
the board of directors; Ayers must have selected Obama,<BR>> QED."<BR>>
<BR>> This is convincing to anyone without a whit of knowledge
regarding<BR>> nonprofit boards. The board of directors cannot be selected by
someone<BR>> with a financial stake in the nonprofit; doing so creates an
inherent<BR>> conflict of interest. The operative section of the tax code is
here:<BR>> <BR>> "A section 501(c)(3) organization must not be organized
or operated<BR>> for the benefit of private interests, such as the creator or
the<BR>> creator's family, shareholders of the organization, other
designated<BR>> individuals, or persons controlled directly or indirectly by
such<BR>> private interests. No part of the net earnings of a section
501(c)(3)<BR>> organization may inure to the benefit of any private
shareholder or<BR>> individual. A private shareholder or individual is a
person having a<BR>> personal and private interest in the activities of the
organization."<BR>> <BR>> -- ACS<BR>> <BR>>
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