[Vision2020] Idaho's 23 Democratic Delegates

[Janesta]

My point is - we include all races, or none. To include just some of the
races, is discrimination against the race, or races left out, Black, White,
Indian, doesn't matter.

All or none.


On 6/16/08, Kai Eiselein <fotopro63 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Chas, what it boils down to is, race and/or sexual orientation has
> absolutely nothing to do with a delegate's ability.
> I think you may have captured it with your statement, *"It certainly
> communicates an intentional diversity that would surprise many non-Idahoans
> who know only our redneck reputation."*
> It may very well be a politcal ploy, using race and sexual orientation as a
> way to say, "We are diverse, see?"
> But should that "intentional diversity" lead someone to think Idaho is more
> diverse than what it is, wouldn't it be a lie?
>
> > Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 23:37:35 -0700
> > From: chasuk at gmail.com
> > To: fotopro63 at hotmail.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Idaho's 23 Democratic Delegates
> > CC: janesta at gmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com; debismith at moscow.com
> >
> > I'm glad that you have made it to WinCo and Wal-Mart. And Nampa,
> > Caldwell, and Nogales, too! I understand that there are regions of
> > Idaho that aren't "lilly white anymore." However, being white in
> > Idaho is still the default expectation, regardless of what your "arse"
> > is telling you. In 2005, 0.84% of the Idaho population was black, and
> > being PC doesn't change that.
> >
> > Yes, I know that there is an increasingly large minority of Hispanics.
> > Still, they make up less than one out of every ten people, and in
> > many, many areas they are nonexistent.
> >
> > On a list of 23 delegates, nine are non-Caucasian. That is
> > surprising, even if only statistically. It certainly communicates an
> > intentional diversity that would surprise many non-Idahoans who know
> > only our redneck reputation. I approve of the message that the
> > National Democratic Convention is sending to those outside of the
> > state, and to the still too-plentiful bigots and racists who pollute
> > our state.
> >
> > The above paragraph encapsulates entirely my use of the word
> > "surprising." If you want to the read something else into it, then
> > please climb back onto your high horse. If you want to pretend that
> > it still isn't surprising in light of my elucidation, again feel free.
> > However, I am not racist, bigoted, provincial, or untraveled.
> >
> > > They only reason Obama and Clinton are singled out is because of the
> fact
> > > they are THE FIRST. The first black man and the first woman to have a
> chance
> > > at the presidency. We don't make much note of women or minorities in
> other
> > > elected positions anymore, I doubt we will of the presidency in the
> future,
> > > either.
> >
> > The only reason? No. The main reason? Arguably. Listen to people
> > in West Virgina and Pennsylvania who tell interviewers that they won't
> > vote for a black man because "Americans aren't ready for a black
> > president, yet." This perfectly expresses both your point and mine.
> >
> > > I know you hate sports, but it is a microcosm of Americana. The first
> blacks
> > > to play pro ball outside of the "Negro League" made headlines, so did
> Jewish
> > > and Japanese players. Now its old hat, the same will happen in
> politics, if
> > > allowed to.
> >
> > Agreed.
> >
> > > Still, why is one's sexual orientation of importance as a delegate is
> beyond
> > > me.
> >
> > For the same reasons that I gave above regarding race. Because it is
> > reputation healing, and because of what it communicates to to
> > too-plentiful homophobes who pollute our state.
> >
> > Chas
>
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