<div>My point is - we include all races, or none. To include just some of the races, is discrimination against the race, or races left out, Black, White, Indian, doesn't matter.</div>
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<div>All or none.<br><br> </div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 6/16/08, <b class="gmail_sendername">Kai Eiselein</b> <<a href="mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com">fotopro63@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</span>
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<div>Chas, what it boils down to is, race and/or sexual orientation has absolutely nothing to do with a delegate's ability. <br>I think you may have captured it with your statement, <em>"It certainly communicates an intentional diversity that would surprise many non-Idahoans who know only our redneck reputation."</em><br>
It may very well be a politcal ploy, using race and sexual orientation as a way to say, "We are diverse, see?"<br>But should that "intentional diversity" lead someone to think Idaho is more diverse than what it is, wouldn't it be a lie?<br>
<br>> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 23:37:35 -0700<br>> From: <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:chasuk@gmail.com" target="_blank">chasuk@gmail.com</a><br>> To: <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:fotopro63@hotmail.com" target="_blank">fotopro63@hotmail.com</a><span class="q"><br>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Idaho's 23 Democratic Delegates<br></span>> CC: <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:janesta@gmail.com" target="_blank">janesta@gmail.com</a>; <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com" target="_blank">vision2020@moscow.com</a>; <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:debismith@moscow.com" target="_blank">debismith@moscow.com</a>
<div><span class="e" id="q_11a920d94cf77252_3"><br>> <br>> I'm glad that you have made it to WinCo and Wal-Mart. And Nampa,<br>> Caldwell, and Nogales, too! I understand that there are regions of<br>> Idaho that aren't "lilly white anymore." However, being white in<br>
> Idaho is still the default expectation, regardless of what your "arse"<br>> is telling you. In 2005, 0.84% of the Idaho population was black, and<br>> being PC doesn't change that.<br>> <br>> Yes, I know that there is an increasingly large minority of Hispanics.<br>
> Still, they make up less than one out of every ten people, and in<br>> many, many areas they are nonexistent.<br>> <br>> On a list of 23 delegates, nine are non-Caucasian. That is<br>> surprising, even if only statistically. It certainly communicates an<br>
> intentional diversity that would surprise many non-Idahoans who know<br>> only our redneck reputation. I approve of the message that the<br>> National Democratic Convention is sending to those outside of the<br>
> state, and to the still too-plentiful bigots and racists who pollute<br>> our state.<br>> <br>> The above paragraph encapsulates entirely my use of the word<br>> "surprising." If you want to the read something else into it, then<br>
> please climb back onto your high horse. If you want to pretend that<br>> it still isn't surprising in light of my elucidation, again feel free.<br>> However, I am not racist, bigoted, provincial, or untraveled.<br>
> <br>> > They only reason Obama and Clinton are singled out is because of the fact<br>> > they are THE FIRST. The first black man and the first woman to have a chance<br>> > at the presidency. We don't make much note of women or minorities in other<br>
> > elected positions anymore, I doubt we will of the presidency in the future,<br>> > either.<br>> <br>> The only reason? No. The main reason? Arguably. Listen to people<br>> in West Virgina and Pennsylvania who tell interviewers that they won't<br>
> vote for a black man because "Americans aren't ready for a black<br>> president, yet." This perfectly expresses both your point and mine.<br>> <br>> > I know you hate sports, but it is a microcosm of Americana. The first blacks<br>
> > to play pro ball outside of the "Negro League" made headlines, so did Jewish<br>> > and Japanese players. Now its old hat, the same will happen in politics, if<br>> > allowed to.<br>> <br>
> Agreed.<br>> <br>> > Still, why is one's sexual orientation of importance as a delegate is beyond<br>> > me.<br>> <br>> For the same reasons that I gave above regarding race. Because it is<br>
> reputation healing, and because of what it communicates to to<br>> too-plentiful homophobes who pollute our state.<br>> <br>> Chas<br><br><br></span></div>
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