[Vision2020] Vision2020 Digest, Vol 20, Issue 113

Thu Feb 14 10:08:22 PST 2008

Hello Visionalez', archiving your vinyl (8 tracks and cassettes, too) can be done several ways.  I'm still forming an opinion on the Hawkins thing from the posts here and at the Daily Newz so will reserve comments on that for now.  I'm still with Garrett on the Noise Ordinance 100% and hope the city doesn't have a big can-o-worms pop open from that one.  Please don't come bustin' down my door if you here me jamming out the Star Spangled Banner ala' Hendrix style.  Hendrix himself looked puzzeled when Dick Cavett asked him on live Tv what his motives and point were in performing the song that way to wit Jimi replied:  "In what way?  I thought it was beautiful."  The live audience went nuts with applause. Let this be a reminder of what happens when we assume we know what anyone else is about.

Anyway here's a few options for saving that vinyl for future generations:

1: If your record player has stereo audio RCA outputs on the back, your computer just needs a capture card device, if none is built in you can buy a USB plug & play capture card for $25 on Ebay that will capture from VCR, DVR, camcorder, cassette deck, etc, etc.  One can be seen here:  

http://cgi.ebay.com/New-USB-2-0-Video-Capture-Card-Adaptor-w-DVD-Editor-US_W0QQitemZ230219768264QQihZ013QQcategoryZ3761QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Be careful because phono inputs and outputs are at a different signal than RCA line level stereo inputs and outputs though they look the exact same, most stereo's stopped including the phono input option probably around 1990.  You could even use a headphone output on the record player with a cheap convertor from 1/4" headphone jack to stereo RCA's but will need to adjust the incoming signal by using the volume control on the record player or by an input level setting in your capture/editing software.

Another specific option that has recently come out is an actual record player with a built in USB connection that allows for archiving vinyl records only but helps Dj's mix custom scratches straight to their recording software.  As always, you pay for convenience, so this option is a little more expensive (about $120 for the playa') but would be more user friendly for the non-techno bunch who is not interested in archiving any other media formats, like old VHS tapes where the USB capture device above or a built in one to your PC would be very useful.

Here's one of those Crosley retro replicas that even now has a USB output built in!  When shopping these replica's make sure to read the descriptions carefully because the lesser models may have a CD and cassette built in but with no stereo RCA line level outputs (or now even USB) it can only be used as a player in your family room and not for recording from.

Crosley USB output:

http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Crosley-Portable-USB-Turntable-Record-Player-CR249_W0QQitemZ150213329104QQihZ005QQcategoryZ3283QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

See their entire line including retro telephones, jukeboxes and more at www.crosleyradio.com 

TTFN!!  Don
> From: vision2020-request at moscow.com> Subject: Vision2020 Digest, Vol 20, Issue 113> To: vision2020 at moscow.com> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 08:07:34 -0800> > Send Vision2020 mailing list submissions to> vision2020 at moscow.com> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/vision2020> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to> vision2020-request at moscow.com> > You can reach the person managing the list at> vision2020-owner at moscow.com> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific> than "Re: Contents of Vision2020 digest..."> > > Today's Topics:> > 1. Re: Any vinyl audiophiles out there? (Tom Hansen)> 2. Say What? (Tom Hansen)> 3. Re: Any vinyl audiophiles out there? (J Ford)> 4. Re: (no subject) (J Ford)> 5. Re: Any vinyl audiophiles out there? (Janesta)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:45:06 GMT> From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Any vinyl audiophiles out there?> To: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>, Carl Westberg> <carlwestberg846 at hotmail.com>, vision2020 at moscow.com> Message-ID: <200802141345.m1EDj7R9072071 at mail-gw.fsr.net>> > Or Carl could have his collection appraised and sell them to collectors.> > The album covers alone should provide him a fair amount of scratch.> > Scan the album covers for posterity's sake.> > Tom Hansen> Moscow, Idaho> > > I wish I could help you. Just for the curious, how much room does > > 17,467 albums take up of physical space? I was going to suggest ripping > > them to your computer, but by my calculations (assuming that an album is > > roughly equal to a CD in size) it would take over 10 terabytes of disk > > space for the raw .wav files. Or about 1 terabyte for mp3 files. Not > > completely out of the question (my computer right now has about a > > terabyte of space), but that's a lot of time ripping albums to disk. On > > the plus side, you could fit them all on two hard disks, for a total > > physical space usage of about the size of two grilled cheese sandwiches.> > > > It would also take somebody just under 4 1/2 years to listen to them > > all, assuming 45 minutes an album and 8 hour days and no time off for > > weekends or holidays.> > > > Paul> > > > Carl Westberg wrote:> > > I'm trying to decide what to do with approximately 17,467 (rough > > > estimate) vinyl classical albums. If you may be interested, or if you > > > know someone that may be interested, let me know off-list. Carl > > > Westberg Jr.> > >> > > -----------------------------------------------------------------------> -> > > Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! 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I have over 500 of them, most of which I have had since the 1960's when they first came out, but also have a number of 78's and albums from the 30's/40's. I've wanted to put them on disk but don't know how. Any info on that would be appreciated. > > Thanks.> > J :]> > > > Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:43:23 -0800> > From: godshatter at yahoo.com> > To: carlwestberg846 at hotmail.com> > CC: vision2020 at moscow.com> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Any vinyl audiophiles out there?> > > > I wish I could help you. Just for the curious, how much room does > > 17,467 albums take up of physical space? I was going to suggest ripping > > them to your computer, but by my calculations (assuming that an album is > > roughly equal to a CD in size) it would take over 10 terabytes of disk > > space for the raw .wav files. Or about 1 terabyte for mp3 files. Not > > completely out of the question (my computer right now has about a > > terabyte of space), but that's a lot of time ripping albums to disk. On > > the plus side, you could fit them all on two hard disks, for a total > > physical space usage of about the size of two grilled cheese sandwiches.> > > > It would also take somebody just under 4 1/2 years to listen to them > > all, assuming 45 minutes an album and 8 hour days and no time off for > > weekends or holidays.> > > > Paul> > > > Carl Westberg wrote:> > > I'm trying to decide what to do with approximately 17,467 (rough > > > estimate) vinyl classical albums. If you may be interested, or if you > > > know someone that may be interested, let me know off-list. Carl > > > Westberg Jr.> > >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> > > Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! Learn more. > > > <http://biggestloser.msn.com/>> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> > >> > > =======================================================> > > List services made available by First Step Internet, > > > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. > > > http://www.fsr.net > > > mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com> > > =======================================================> > > > > > =======================================================> > List services made available by First Step Internet, > > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. > > http://www.fsr.net > > mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com> > =======================================================> > _________________________________________________________________> Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging.?You IM, we give.> http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=text_hotmail_join> -------------- next part --------------> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...> URL: http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/attachments/20080214/35afcc10/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------> > Message: 4> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 07:13:23 -0800> From: J Ford <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] (no subject)> To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>> Message-ID: <BAY105-W1389D41A13B025C587F1A8AF250 at phx.gbl>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > > Yes, but WERE we in competition? Sounds like, to me, the only thing negotiated was the water/sewer use and nothing else. Don't see how that is competition with Washington especially if they weren't even involved in the talks.> > Clarification would be nice.> > J :]> > > Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:13:09 -0800> To: vision2020 at moscow.com> From: jeffh at moscow.com> Subject: [Vision2020] (no subject)> > > > > > To those interested, it would appear that items e and f of the state> statute for executive sessions would be applicable.> > > > > > (e) To consider> preliminary negotiations involving matters of > > > > trade or commerce in which the governing body is in competition with> > > > > governing bodies in other states or nations;> > > > (f) To communicate with legal counsel for the public agency to> > > > > discuss the legal ramifications of and legal options for pending> > > > > litigation, or controversies not yet being litigated but imminently> likely to be> > > > litigated. The mere presence of legal counsel at an executive> > > > > session does not satisfy this requirement;> > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________> Climb to the top of the charts!?Play the word scramble challenge with star power.> http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan> -------------- next part --------------> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...> URL: http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/attachments/20080214/dd8c8306/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------> > Message: 5> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 08:07:33 -0800> From: Janesta <janesta at gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Any vinyl audiophiles out there?> To: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com> Message-ID:> <5c9c75a30802140807n1216edf7hc1c63159fa71f22d at mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > Ask Dave, at KRFP. He knows EVERYTHING tech and music related. *smile*> > On 2/14/08, J Ford <privatejf32 at hotmail.com> wrote:> >> > Question:> >> > How do you rip an album to disk? I have over 500 of them, most of which I> > have had since the 1960's when they first came out, but also have a number> > of 78's and albums from the 30's/40's. I've wanted to put them on disk but> > don't know how. Any info on that would be appreciated.> >> > Thanks.> >> > J :]> >> >> > > Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:43:23 -0800> > > From: godshatter at yahoo.com> > > To: carlwestberg846 at hotmail.com> > > CC: vision2020 at moscow.com> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Any vinyl audiophiles out there?> > >> > > I wish I could help you. Just for the curious, how much room does> > > 17,467 albums take up of physical space? I was going to suggest ripping> > > them to your computer, but by my calculations (assuming that an album is> >> > > roughly equal to a CD in size) it would take over 10 terabytes of disk> > > space for the raw .wav files. Or about 1 terabyte for mp3 files. Not> > > completely out of the question (my computer right now has about a> > > terabyte of space), but that's a lot of time ripping albums to disk. On> > > the plus side, you could fit them all on two hard disks, for a total> > > physical space usage of about the size of two grilled cheese sandwiches.> > >> > > It would also take somebody just under 4 1/2 years to listen to them> > > all, assuming 45 minutes an album and 8 hour days and no time off for> > > weekends or holidays.> > >> > > Paul> > >> > > Carl Westberg wrote:> > > > I'm trying to decide what to do with approximately 17,467 (rough> > > > estimate) vinyl classical albums. If you may be interested, or if you> > > > know someone that may be interested, let me know off-list. Carl> > > > Westberg Jr.> > > >> > > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> > > > Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! Learn more.> > > > <http://biggestloser.msn.com/>> > > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> > > >> > > > =======================================================> > > > List services made available by First Step Internet,> > > > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.> > > > http://www.fsr.net> > > > mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com> > > > =======================================================> > >> > >> > > =======================================================> > > List services made available by First Step Internet,> > > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.> > > http://www.fsr.net> > > mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com> > > =======================================================> >> > ------------------------------> > Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging. You IM, we> > give. Learn more.<http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=text_hotmail_join>> >> > =======================================================> > List services made available by First Step Internet,> > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.> > http://www.fsr.net> > mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com> > =======================================================> >> -------------- next part --------------> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...> URL: http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/attachments/20080214/f11e55fb/attachment.html > > ------------------------------> > =======================================================> List services made available by First Step Internet, > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. > http://www.fsr.net > mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com> =======================================================> > End of Vision2020 Digest, Vol 20, Issue 113> *******************************************
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