[Vision2020] Coulter's Dream - from CNN

J Ford privatejf32 at hotmail.com
Tue Oct 16 09:17:04 PDT 2007


Gary says:  " I am sorry to disappoint you and your ladies aid society..."

Is this supposed to be an insult?  SUCH a kirker-like thing to do, Gary.  Dougie must be so very proud of you!

J  :]


> From: jampot at roadrunner.com
> To: joekc at adelphia.net
> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 07:52:20 -0700
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com; donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Coulter's Dream - from CNN
> 
> It's a doggone good thing you don't make your living as a gambling man, Mr. 
> Campbell. I am sorry to disappoint you and your ladies aid society but 
> nothing in the post you reference was given to me by anyone else. It seems 
> to me to be another example of your oversized ego to imagine that there is a 
> group devoted to making you look foolish when it's clear that you have the 
> situation so well in hand.
> 
> Of course, I have cross posted from the right mind site but I'm fairly sure 
> I have cited it each time. Dale (nor any flavor of Doug) has no 
> responsibility for anything that I have written to you, ever. It would seem 
> that you and your associates ongoing obsession is spilling over into 
> paranoia. And might I mention that the assertion coming from a conspiracy 
> theorist who, along with her fellow "researcher," keeps shoe boxes of files 
> on their pet infatuation is an irony to amusing to ignore.
> 
> Regarding the supposed error I made in the use of the phrase "embracing 
> abortion," I'm sorry if I received the wrong impression from all the times 
> you have trotted out your "clear harms to clear people" defense of the 
> practice. I'd dive back into the archives and provide reference for why I 
> may have reached the conclusion that I did but, it seems clear that being 
> held accountable for what you say makes you testy. Today I'll refrain.
> 
> This most recent rant on your part seems to center on the fact I made a 
> statement concerning your "ambiguous religious disposition." You take 
> exception and in defense state " I don’t like to talk about the specifics of 
> my religious beliefs. I speak in vague generalities. The comments were 
> vague..." When I go to Thesaurus.com the very first entry under "vague" is 
> ambiguous. With this being the case, just exactly what is it that has you 
> going off on yet another of your incoherent and all too frequent  rants?
> 
> In closing let me say that I find it quite odd and faintly disturbing that 
> your concern over me is so all consuming that you would use it to influence 
> your voting decisions. Maybe you could read up and attend a candidates forum 
> or two? I'm fairly sure that my inconsequential blathering here on the V 
> doesn't quite make the candidates radar screen.
> 
> g
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joe Campbell" <joekc at adelphia.net>
> To: "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>
> Cc: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 6:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Coulter's Dream - from CNN
> 
> 
> Gary: “So when YOUR incongruous comments are pointed out, I'M a jackass.”
> 
> No. You can’t blame your jackassedness on my incongruous comments.
> 
> Gary: “I suppose no matter what happens in your life that's not quite to 
> your liking it will
> be someone else that's at fault.”
> 
> No. I never said this. If you can point out where I said this I’d appreciate 
> it. You seem to
> have access to a lot of my quotes and lots of time on your hands.
> 
> Gary: “I fail to see how supporting my contentions by providing reference to 
> your actual
> words equals making fun of your religious beliefs. By the way, I don't 
> collect your
> quotes, the V2020 archive does. If you are embarrassed by what you have said 
> in the past
> I don't see how I can be held accountable. Providing the full quote and a 
> reference to
> where it can be found is pretty much the exact opposite of quoting out of 
> context.”
> 
> I stand by my words. You’re MISSING THE POINT. The point is, you’re a 
> jackass and
> I’m not going to take the trouble to explain my views any further since you 
> don’t really
> want to understand them. You want to ridicule them.
> 
> Also, did you find the quotes, or did someone give them to you? I bet you 
> won’t answer
> this question! Have you ever published any information sent to you by a 
> member of
> Christ Church who’s first initial is ‘D’?
> 
> Gary: “I don't believe that pointing out inconsistency is the same as 
> ridicule …”
> 
> Of course it is not. But you didn’t point out an inconsistency. You just 
> strung together a
> bunch of quotes that Doug, or Dale, or Doug FED YOU and supposed that that 
> would do
> the trick. But you don’t even understand the quotes. Which is why you can’t 
> spot an
> inconsistency. If I’m wrong, do it.
> 
> As I said in recent posts, I don’t like to talk about the specifics of my 
> religious beliefs. I
> speak in vague generalities. The comments were vague – such is the nature of 
> my
> comments. I’d like to know why you think they are inconsistent – but you can’t 
> say since
> this was not YOUR idea. Again, prove me wrong and explain the inconsistency.
> 
> Gary: “… so, here's a challenge for you. Using the same technique, why don't 
> you back
> up your assertion that I ‘make fun of your religious beliefs.’ Providing 
> actual examples of
> my dastardly ways would doubtless go quite a bit further than your 
> unsubstantiated whining.”
> 
> You claimed that I “embrace abortion” and this is a lie. Where have I said 
> this? I’ve said
> the opposite on numerous occasions. But you persist in this lie because you 
> are a jackass.
> 
> I am using you as a litmus test for the coming election. I will ask each 
> candidate, “Do you
> think Gary Crabtree is a jackass”? If they say ‘No,’ I’m not voting for 
> them.
> 
> 
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