[Vision2020] Coulter's Dream - from CNN

Tue Oct 16 12:09:43 PDT 2007

No, I was referring to Ms. Lund's post which almost perfectly mirrored Mr. Campbell's response. (no collusion there, I'm sure) I don't know about Doug, but my mother sorta thinks I'm special...

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: J Ford 
  To: vision2020 at moscow.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 9:17 AM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Coulter's Dream - from CNN

  Gary says:  " I am sorry to disappoint you and your ladies aid society..."

  Is this supposed to be an insult?  SUCH a kirker-like thing to do, Gary.  Dougie must be so very proud of you!

  J :]

  > From: jampot at roadrunner.com
  > To: joekc at adelphia.net
  > Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 07:52:20 -0700
  > CC: vision2020 at moscow.com; donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
  > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Coulter's Dream - from CNN
  > 
  > It's a doggone good thing you don't make your living as a gambling man, Mr. 
  > Campbell. I am sorry to disappoint you and your ladies aid society but 
  > nothing in the post you reference was given to me by anyone else. It seems 
  > to me to be another example of your oversized ego to imagine that there is a 
  > group devoted to making you look foolish when it's clear that you have the 
  > situation so well in hand.
  > 
  > Of course, I have cross posted from the right mind site but I'm fairly sure 
  > I have cited it each time. Dale (nor any flavor of Doug) has no 
  > responsibility for anything that I have written to you, ever. It would seem 
  > that you and your associates ongoing obsession is spilling over into 
  > paranoia. And might I mention that the assertion coming from a conspiracy 
  > theorist who, along with her fellow "researcher," keeps shoe boxes of files 
  > on their pet infatuation is an irony to amusing to ignore.
  > 
  > Regarding the supposed error I made in the use of the phrase "embracing 
  > abortion," I'm sorry if I received the wrong impression from all the times 
  > you have trotted out your "clear harms to clear people" defense of the 
  > practice. I'd dive back into the archives and provide reference for why I 
  > may have reached the conclusion that I did but, it seems clear that being 
  > held accountable for what you say makes you testy. Today I'll refrain.
  > 
  > This most recent rant on your part seems to center on the fact I made a 
  > statement concerning your "ambiguous religious disposition." You take 
  > exception and in defense state " I don’t like to talk about the specifics of 
  > my religious beliefs. I speak in vague generalities. The comments were 
  > vague..." When I go to Thesaurus.com the very first entry under "vague" is 
  > ambiguous. With this being the case, just exactly what is it that has you 
  > going off on yet another of your incoherent and all too frequent rants?
  > 
  > In closing let me say that I find it quite odd and faintly disturbing that 
  > your concern over me is so all consuming that you would use it to influence 
  > your voting decisions. Maybe you could read up and attend a candidates forum 
  > or two? I'm fairly sure that my inconsequential blathering here on the V 
  > doesn't quite make the candidates radar screen.
  > 
  > g
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: "Joe Campbell" <joekc at adelphia.net>
  > To: "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>
  > Cc: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
  > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 6:53 PM
  > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Coulter's Dream - from CNN
  > 
  > 
  > Gary: “So when YOUR incongruous comments are pointed out, I'M a jackass.”
  > 
  > No. You can’t blame your jackassedness on my incongruous comments.
  > 
  > Gary: “I suppose no matter what happens in your life that's not quite to 
  > your liking it will
  > be someone else that's at fault.”
  > 
  > No. I never said this. If you can point out where I said this I’d appreciate 
  > it. You seem to
  > have access to a lot of my quotes and lots of time on your hands.
  > 
  > Gary: “I fail to see how supporting my contentions by providing reference to 
  > your actual
  > words equals making fun of your religious beliefs. By the way, I don't 
  > collect your
  > quotes, the V2020 archive does. If you are embarrassed by what you have said 
  > in the past
  > I don't see how I can be held accountable. Providing the full quote and a 
  > reference to
  > where it can be found is pretty much the exact opposite of quoting out of 
  > context.”
  > 
  > I stand by my words. You’re MISSING THE POINT. The point is, you’re a 
  > jackass and
  > I’m not going to take the trouble to explain my views any further since you 
  > don’t really
  > want to understand them. You want to ridicule them.
  > 
  > Also, did you find the quotes, or did someone give them to you? I bet you 
  > won’t answer
  > this question! Have you ever published any information sent to you by a 
  > member of
  > Christ Church who’s first initial is ‘D’?
  > 
  > Gary: “I don't believe that pointing out inconsistency is the same as 
  > ridicule …”
  > 
  > Of course it is not. But you didn’t point out an inconsistency. You just 
  > strung together a
  > bunch of quotes that Doug, or Dale, or Doug FED YOU and supposed that that 
  > would do
  > the trick. But you don’t even understand the quotes. Which is why you can’t 
  > spot an
  > inconsistency. If I’m wrong, do it.
  > 
  > As I said in recent posts, I don’t like to talk about the specifics of my 
  > religious beliefs. I
  > speak in vague generalities. The comments were vague – such is the nature of 
  > my
  > comments. I’d like to know why you think they are inconsistent – but you can’t 
  > say since
  > this was not YOUR idea. Again, prove me wrong and explain the inconsistency.
  > 
  > Gary: “… so, here's a challenge for you. Using the same technique, why don't 
  > you back
  > up your assertion that I ‘make fun of your religious beliefs.’ Providing 
  > actual examples of
  > my dastardly ways would doubtless go quite a bit further than your 
  > unsubstantiated whining.”
  > 
  > You claimed that I “embrace abortion” and this is a lie. Where have I said 
  > this? I’ve said
  > the opposite on numerous occasions. But you persist in this lie because you 
  > are a jackass.
  > 
  > I am using you as a litmus test for the coming election. I will ask each 
  > candidate, “Do you
  > think Gary Crabtree is a jackass”? If they say ‘No,’ I’m not voting for 
  > them.
  > 
  > 
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