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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>No, I was referring to Ms. Lund's post which almost
perfectly mirrored Mr. Campbell's response. (no collusion there, I'm sure) I
don't know about Doug, but my mother sorta thinks I'm special...</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>g</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=privatejf32@hotmail.com href="mailto:privatejf32@hotmail.com">J
Ford</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=vision2020@moscow.com
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 16, 2007 9:17
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Coulter's Dream
- from CNN</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Gary says: " I am sorry to disappoint you and your ladies
aid society..."<BR><BR>Is this supposed to be an insult? <SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic">SUCH</SPAN> a kirker-like thing to do, Gary.
Dougie must be so very proud of you!<BR><BR>J :]<BR><BR><BR>> From: <A
href="mailto:jampot@roadrunner.com">jampot@roadrunner.com</A><BR>> To: <A
href="mailto:joekc@adelphia.net">joekc@adelphia.net</A><BR>> Date: Tue, 16
Oct 2007 07:52:20 -0700<BR>> CC: <A
href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A>; <A
href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</A><BR>>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Coulter's Dream - from CNN<BR>> <BR>> It's a
doggone good thing you don't make your living as a gambling man, Mr. <BR>>
Campbell. I am sorry to disappoint you and your ladies aid society but
<BR>> nothing in the post you reference was given to me by anyone else. It
seems <BR>> to me to be another example of your oversized ego to imagine
that there is a <BR>> group devoted to making you look foolish when it's
clear that you have the <BR>> situation so well in hand.<BR>> <BR>>
Of course, I have cross posted from the right mind site but I'm fairly sure
<BR>> I have cited it each time. Dale (nor any flavor of Doug) has no
<BR>> responsibility for anything that I have written to you, ever. It
would seem <BR>> that you and your associates ongoing obsession is spilling
over into <BR>> paranoia. And might I mention that the assertion coming
from a conspiracy <BR>> theorist who, along with her fellow "researcher,"
keeps shoe boxes of files <BR>> on their pet infatuation is an irony to
amusing to ignore.<BR>> <BR>> Regarding the supposed error I made in the
use of the phrase "embracing <BR>> abortion," I'm sorry if I received the
wrong impression from all the times <BR>> you have trotted out your "clear
harms to clear people" defense of the <BR>> practice. I'd dive back into
the archives and provide reference for why I <BR>> may have reached the
conclusion that I did but, it seems clear that being <BR>> held accountable
for what you say makes you testy. Today I'll refrain.<BR>> <BR>> This
most recent rant on your part seems to center on the fact I made a <BR>>
statement concerning your "ambiguous religious disposition." You take <BR>>
exception and in defense state " I don’t like to talk about the specifics of
<BR>> my religious beliefs. I speak in vague generalities. The comments
were <BR>> vague..." When I go to Thesaurus.com the very first entry under
"vague" is <BR>> ambiguous. With this being the case, just exactly what is
it that has you <BR>> going off on yet another of your incoherent and all
too frequent rants?<BR>> <BR>> In closing let me say that I find it
quite odd and faintly disturbing that <BR>> your concern over me is so all
consuming that you would use it to influence <BR>> your voting decisions.
Maybe you could read up and attend a candidates forum <BR>> or two? I'm
fairly sure that my inconsequential blathering here on the V <BR>> doesn't
quite make the candidates radar screen.<BR>> <BR>> g<BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: "Joe Campbell"
<joekc@adelphia.net><BR>> To: "g. crabtree"
<jampot@roadrunner.com><BR>> Cc: "Donovan Arnold"
<donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com>; <vision2020@moscow.com><BR>>
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 6:53 PM<BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020]
Coulter's Dream - from CNN<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Gary: “So when YOUR
incongruous comments are pointed out, I'M a jackass.”<BR>> <BR>> No. You
can’t blame your jackassedness on my incongruous comments.<BR>> <BR>>
Gary: “I suppose no matter what happens in your life that's not quite to
<BR>> your liking it will<BR>> be someone else that's at fault.”<BR>>
<BR>> No. I never said this. If you can point out where I said this I’d
appreciate <BR>> it. You seem to<BR>> have access to a lot of my quotes
and lots of time on your hands.<BR>> <BR>> Gary: “I fail to see how
supporting my contentions by providing reference to <BR>> your
actual<BR>> words equals making fun of your religious beliefs. By the way,
I don't <BR>> collect your<BR>> quotes, the V2020 archive does. If you
are embarrassed by what you have said <BR>> in the past<BR>> I don't see
how I can be held accountable. Providing the full quote and a <BR>>
reference to<BR>> where it can be found is pretty much the exact opposite
of quoting out of <BR>> context.”<BR>> <BR>> I stand by my words.
You’re MISSING THE POINT. The point is, you’re a <BR>> jackass and<BR>>
I’m not going to take the trouble to explain my views any further since you
<BR>> don’t really<BR>> want to understand them. You want to ridicule
them.<BR>> <BR>> Also, did you find the quotes, or did someone give them
to you? I bet you <BR>> won’t answer<BR>> this question! Have you ever
published any information sent to you by a <BR>> member of<BR>> Christ
Church who’s first initial is ‘D’?<BR>> <BR>> Gary: “I don't believe
that pointing out inconsistency is the same as <BR>> ridicule …”<BR>>
<BR>> Of course it is not. But you didn’t point out an inconsistency. You
just <BR>> strung together a<BR>> bunch of quotes that Doug, or Dale, or
Doug FED YOU and supposed that that <BR>> would do<BR>> the trick. But
you don’t even understand the quotes. Which is why you can’t <BR>> spot
an<BR>> inconsistency. If I’m wrong, do it.<BR>> <BR>> As I said in
recent posts, I don’t like to talk about the specifics of my <BR>>
religious beliefs. I<BR>> speak in vague generalities. The comments were
vague – such is the nature of <BR>> my<BR>> comments. I’d like to know
why you think they are inconsistent – but you can’t <BR>> say since<BR>>
this was not YOUR idea. Again, prove me wrong and explain the
inconsistency.<BR>> <BR>> Gary: “… so, here's a challenge for you. Using
the same technique, why don't <BR>> you back<BR>> up your assertion that
I ‘make fun of your religious beliefs.’ Providing <BR>> actual examples
of<BR>> my dastardly ways would doubtless go quite a bit further than your
<BR>> unsubstantiated whining.”<BR>> <BR>> You claimed that I
“embrace abortion” and this is a lie. Where have I said <BR>> this? I’ve
said<BR>> the opposite on numerous occasions. But you persist in this lie
because you <BR>> are a jackass.<BR>> <BR>> I am using you as a
litmus test for the coming election. I will ask each <BR>> candidate, “Do
you<BR>> think Gary Crabtree is a jackass”? If they say ‘No,’ I’m not
voting for <BR>> them.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
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