[Vision2020] Justice turned upside down ( corrected)

Tom Hansen thansen at moscow.com
Tue May 1 12:26:37 PDT 2007

I seriously doubt that it is the same incident, Mr. Falen.

This one took place in a UH-1 utility helicopter in Kabul, Afghanistan.

The incident you accuse me of posting apparently took place on the ground
somewhere in Iraq.

Realizing that I will not receive an apology from you, concerning your
accusation, . . .

Enough said.

Tom "Who knows that Iraq and Afghanistan are not one in the same" Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

"We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The college
students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."

- Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)

-----Original Message-----
From: lfalen [mailto:lfalen at turbonet.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 12:12 PM
To: Tom Hansen; vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Justice turned upside down ( corrected)

This is what I was referring to. I have been hearing about this from several
other sources over the last month. From what I have heard some solders were
being fired upon from a house. They returned fire. Some non-combatants in
the house were killed. A reporter from Newsweek interviewed some of the
local people. He was told that several non-combatants were murdered. This
was the bases for the convictions. This may be or not be the the same

-----Original message-----
From: "Tom Hansen" thansen at moscow.com
Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 11:42:16 -0700
To: "'lfalen'" lfalen at turbonet.com,  vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Justice turned upside down ( corrected)

> Mr. Falen stated:
> "Tom posted yesterday that some GI's that were doing their job in Iraq
> convicted of kill several Iraqi civilians."
> HUH?!?!
> Where is this posting, Mr. Falen?
> The closest posting I can find (over the past 30 days) is:
> "Kabul Case Smalls Rotten"
> http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2007-April/043792.html
> This article was copied and pasted from the Air Force Times.  It concerns
> "blowing the whistle" on what is perceived to be a government cover-up in
> Kabul (that's in Afghanistan).
> It is re-pasted below:
> -------------------
> Kabul case smells rotten
> Something definitely is fishy about the case against Lt. Cols. Gary Brown
> and Christopher Hall ["Officers rebuked for Kabul clash," April 16]. They
> pull their guns in a war zone to protect themselves in a potentially
> incident, and they end up getting fragged by their own service. There are
> allegations of bribing witnesses, falsifying legal documents and forging a
> videotape of the incident in an effort to secure a conviction against two
> distinguished officers.
> The larger issue is the example this sets for all Air Force members. Is
> Air Force going to issue a lawyer to everyone who gets sent to Central
> Command's area of responsibility? Will this lawyer advise service members
> when they can pull their guns, aim them and fire? Why would any Air Force
> member volunteer to serve in the AOR if this is the support he can expect
> receive from his superior officers? Unless there's more to the story than
> has been reported, the Air Force owes these officers an apology and a
> commendation.
> Lt. Col. Eric Newhouse
> McChord Air Force Base, Wash.
> -------------------
> You will notice several things.
> 1)  It is copied and pasted from the "Letters" section of the Air Force
> Times.  As such, they are not my words, but the words of Lt. Col. Eric
> Newhouse.
> 2)  This incident occurred in Kabul Afghanistan (not Iraq).
> 3)  The letter concerns allegations of deaths by friendly fire, not deaths
> of any local civilians.
> I realize that I am not Shirley Ringo and tomorrow is not election day,
> certainly, Mr. Falen, you should be able to do better than that,
> if you are considering running again for public office.
> Seeya round town, Moscow.
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho

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