[Vision2020] Courts are asked to crack-down on bloggers, websites
J Ford
privatejf32 at hotmail.com
Tue Oct 10 17:37:42 PDT 2006
This is it?! This is all you've got?! This is the best you can do, show
e-mails that were AFTER the fact, that ask questions regarding the validity
of a claim made by someone?!
Pahleeze!!!
Why don't you just go back to your sandbox and let the rest of us adults
work at making this a better community?
J :]
>From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>To: J Ford <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>, vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] USATODAY.com - Courts are asked
>tocrackdownonbloggers, websites
>Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 00:11:30 -0700 (PDT)
>
>J,
>
>A person can be found guilty in civil court. You can get all excited about
>the terminology used for it if you want. But, if you go a head and keep
>destroying people's property, making false complaints against them to the
>city, and demand people "PROVE IT", see where you end up. I believe only
>guilty people say that.
>
> Right after you had an argument with Phil Roderick his property was
>destroyed, and you were asking all sorts of questions about this security
>systems.
>
> http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2005-April/015987.html
>
>http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2005-April/016001.html
>
>http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2005-April/016005.html
>
> That vandalism is on police record.
>
>
> You got into an argument with Austin Storm, and surprise, a false
>complaint about his business was filed with the the city.
>
> http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2006-May/029460.html
> http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2006-May/029453.html
>
> That false report was filed and is on record.
>
>
> Third, you have been endlessly been attacking Doug Wilson and his
>property was attacked four times.
>
>http://right-mind.us/blogs/intolerista_island/archive/2006/04/03/42703.aspx
>
>
>
> That is also on police record.
>
>
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> _DJA
>
>
>
>J Ford <privatejf32 at hotmail.com> wrote: I knew you'd back off your
>statement the minute I challenged you!
>
>We'll see just how accurate you are, you putz!
>
>You name ONE SINGLE piece of property that you can prove that I have
>"destroyed"...just one.
>
>You and I and everyone else KNOWS you are lieing - not to mention you never
>spoke to any "county official" and there isn't one alive that would back
>YOU
>up.
>
>You WILL learn you take the word of liars and present them as fact - you!
>loose, IF that is even what has happened. My guess - you simply are taking
>what others have said on this list and on other's blogs and decided that
>makes it YOUR truth and that they are telling YOU these things. Hear
>little
>voices in your head often, do you?
>
>You don't know a damn thing about me except what you have been told by a
>bunch of known liars and deceivers. NOW, you get to see where that gets
>you.
>
>Oh, and BTW - you don't get "convicted" in civil court, you troll! Either
>they find for the plaintiff or they find for the respondent; being
>"convicted" means you spend time in jail or on probation and have a record.
>Surely, a college man such as yourself should know the difference. Mayhap
>Sunil can explain it to you.
>
>
>
>J :]
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: Donovan Arnold
> >To: J Ford
>, vision2020 at moscow.com
> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] USATODAY.com - Courts are asked
> >tocrackdownonbloggers, websites
> >Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 22:32:10 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >J,
> >
> > If it were my property you destroyed, you bet I would call them J. I
> >think there is more than enough circumstantial evidence against you J
>for
> >a conviction in a civil court, as is what a county officer told me in a
> >private conversation. In a criminal court, it would a bit harder. But
>when
> >eight people (that I know of) you have known to have strong public
> >disagreements with end up with false complaints filed against them and
> >damaged property, it doesn't bode well for you. Especially when you
>don't
> >work and have lots of time, have been caught on people's private
>property
> >taking pictures, and have no less than 200 emails slandering them
> >personally on a public forum.
> >
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > _DJA
> >
> >
> >
> >J Ford
> wrote: Go for it you lousy little weasel!
> > The MPD phone number is on the tip of
> >your tongue - use it! Just be sure you got the cahoonas to withstand the
> >consequences.
> >
> >J :]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Donovan Arnold
> > >To: J Ford
> >, vision2020 at moscow.com
> > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] USATODAY.com - Courts are asked
> > >tocrackdownonbloggers, websites
> > >Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 21:47:05 -0700 (PDT)
> > >
> > >
> > >"Better yet, go for a long walk on a short pier and make my day!"
> > >J
> > >
> > >Wow J! That was a great line. That is funny. Did you just
> > >come up with that all by yourself? That's so fresh and timely.
> > >Got any jokes about the Czar of Russia and the Bolshevik Revolution
> >before
> > >that expires?
> > >
> > >Evidence? Yeap, got evidence. Plenty. Be careful what you wish for.
> > >
> > >Best,
> > >
> > >_DJA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >J Ford
> > wrote: Well, by golly - ya got me, DJA!
> > >I must confess, I confess. You are
> > >right...I DO own a camera. Well, to be truthful, I own several - some
>of
> > >them are even antiques.
> > >
> > >BUT NOT ONE OF THEM HAVE EVER BEEN USED TO STALK PEOPLE OR THEIR
> >CHILDREN.
> > >
> > >You or anyone else that has ANY proof to contrary, might I suggest you
> > >prove
> > >it or shut the h**l up! I have never, THAT'S NEVER, damaged anyone's
> > >property nor have I EVER made any "anonymous phone call(s) to
>government
> > >authorities making false claims". Again, you got proof, I mean hard
> >core,
> > >in paper, in video, etc. type of proof and I am sure people would be
> > >interested. Since you do not 'cause I have NEVER DONE ANY OF THOSE
> >THINGS,
> > >shut up!
> > >
> > >Better yet, go for a long walk on a short pier and make my day!
> > >
> > >J :]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Donovan Arnold
> > > >To: J Ford
> > >, vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] USATODAY.com - Courts are asked to
> > > >crackdownonbloggers, websites
> > > >Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 20:21:32 -0700 (PDT)
> > > >
> > > >J,
> > > >
> > > > I don't recall having any time to stalk people as I think you seem
> >to
> > > >have J, as I have worked two jobs and go to school full time. I
>would
> > >also
> > > >think that it would be smart to at least own a camera too if I was
> >into
> > > >stalking. Got one I can borrow J? But nonetheless, if you think so,
>go
> > >for
> > > >it J.
> > > >
> > > > Say J, how come so many people that you publicly voice
>indifference
> >to
> > > >shortly there after end up with damaged property or an anonymous
>phone
> > > >call to government authorities making false claims against them? Is
> >that
> > > >just a coincidence?
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > >
> > > > _DJA
> > > >
> > > >J Ford
> > > wrote: And the people YOU have harassed
> > > >and stalked just this past year...should we
> > > >get in on that "sue-em-dano" train, too?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >J :]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: Donovan Arnold
> > > > >To: J Ford
> > > >, vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] USATODAY.com - Courts are asked to crack
> > > > >downonbloggers, websites
> > > > >Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 19:30:28 -0700 (PDT)
> > > > >
> > > > >I for one think Doug Wilson should sue the crap out of all the
>people
> > > >that
> > > > >have been harassing him over the last five years. I think it will
> > >bring
> > > > >some closure to people that harass not only him, but the entire
> > > >population
> > > > >of the Palouse about him and anyone that knows him.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am not a follower of Doug Wilson. But I wish him the best in
> > > > >defending himself against some of these people that just go way
> > > >overboard
> > > > >and violate his rights in their efforts to try and prove something
> >we
> > > >just
> > > > >don't care about.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > >
> > > > > _DJA
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >J Ford
> > > > wrote: We best be watching the County
> > > > >logs for this one to come up soon, then. I
> > > > >am sure since the MPD did not respond favorably to Dougie-BOY's
> >attempt
> > > >to
> > > > >harass people, he will try this tact. And since Greggy is no
>longer
> > >his
> > > > >pet
> > > > >attorney, available at his every beck and call, I am just as sure
> > > > >Dougie-BOY
> > > > >will be hiring some out-of-town-big-wig lawyer to handle the case.
> > > >Which,
> > > > >come to think of it, would make sense even if Greggy weren't into
> >"real
> > > > >estate" these days...considering he can't handle the "bigger" cases
> > > >anyway
> > > > >and Dougie- BOY proves his lack of confidence in Greggy when it
>comes
> > >to
> > > > >such cases. Just look at the Sitler and Jamin cases - wasn't
>Greggy
> > >who
> > > > >was
> > > > >called on to take those for the church, now was it?
> > > > >
> > > > >Sorry, Greggy....no vote of confidence for you from the big guy.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >J :]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: "Michael"
> > > > > >To:
> > > > > >Subject: [Vision2020] USATODAY.com - Courts are asked to crack
>down
> > > > > >onbloggers, websites
> > > > > >Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 09:51:23 -0700
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >For those of you not aware, the front page of USA Today mentions
> >the
> > > >law
> > > > > >suit against my friend Frank Vance; I figured some of you might
>be
> > > > > >interested since Doug Wilson helped make all this happen (Vance
>was
> > > >first
> > > > > >pursuing in part Wilson's dishonest cover up of Ligonier
> >Ministrie's
> > >RC
> > > > > >Sproul Jr, Wilson's buddy who was defrocked in part for deceit
>and
> > > > >pastoral
> > > > > >abuse.).
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Here's the link:
> > > > >
> > >http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20061003/1a_cover03.art.htm
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >"Ligonier Ministries, a religious broadcaster and publisher in
>Lake
> > > >Mary,
> > > > > >Fla., has taken the unusual step of asking a judge to
>pre-emptively
> > > > >silence
> > > > > >a blogger to try to prevent him from criticizing the ministries.
> > >Judges
> > > > > >historically have refused to place such limits on traditional
> > > >publishers.
> > > > > >The lawsuit cites postings on a blog by Frank Vance that
>described
> > > > >Ligonier
> > > > > >president Timothy Dick as "a shark" and as coming from a "family
>of
> > > > > >nincompoops." The suit says the entries are false and have
>damaged
> > > >Dick's
> > > > > >reputation."
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Wilson is now on record claiming there is no reason to think
>there
> >is
> > > > > >anything wrong with such a law suit (ahem).
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Michael Metzler
> > > > > >
> > > > > >www.poohsthink.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
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