[Vision2020] Public Works Meeting
Art Deco
deco at moscow.com
Wed Aug 16 14:19:25 PDT 2006
A healthy outcome to this discussion is that we agree that something needs to be done soon. Now if those in charge were in tune... Ah, but that is too great an expectation.
W.
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Ivie
To: Bruce and Jean Livingston ; Craine Kit ; Vision 2020
Cc: john weber ; Robert Stout ; Nancy Chaney ; john dickinson ; bill lambert
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Public Works Meeting
The Mayor suggested a pedestrian activated light, which I agree is a good idea. These are more expensive than a stop sign and usually require funding which takes several years. We could do a 4 way stop until pedestrian activated lights could be installed, if that is something our leaders would want to do.
As far as blinking lights go...isn't there one at 6th and Blaine? But who notices it? I hit that intersection all the time and someone had to point the light out to me.
One problem with "school zones" is that drivers assume the caution is during the school months and not during the summer children are also present.
Bruce and Jean Livingston <jeanlivingston at turbonet.com> wrote:
Frankly, I don't understand why they don't put a traffic light there, set it
for blinking yellow much of the day in the Mountainview direction, but run
it with actual red and green alternating lights for the high traffic, "kid"
times, say 7 a.m. to 9 a.m., and 2 p.m. until 4 or even 6 pm given the "kid
use" of the athletic facilities all around that intersection. The traffic
back-up on D St. can be significant, and a regimented crossing opportunity
that an actual red light on Mountainview would provide is significant.
Parents would also be much more likely to allow children to walk to school
if they had confidence in the safety of their child when crossing
Mountainview at D Street.
Bruce Livingston
----- Original Message -----
From: "Craine Kit"
To: "Vision 2020"
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Public Works Meeting
> Here are the photos showing the flashing lights.
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> Kit Craine
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On Aug 15, 2006, at 9:00 PM, J Ford wrote:
> What I did not like was/is the Mayor's attitude that the citizens
> of Moscow are too stupid to see a Stop sign much less heed it and
> stop. She apparently has little appreciation for the intelligence
> of all of us that use that road. It may, MAY take a time or two
> for people to see the Stop sign but with a campaign of
> notifications through the papers, news radio shows, etc, I believe
> it would be a non-issue fairly quickly. As one person pointed out,
> we all adapted rather well and rather quickly to the mess on
> Washington and on 6th.
>
> Given that attitude of hers, why would putting a flashing light and
> a sign saying "School Zone" be any different? What would make
> people anymore aware and slow down anymore than a Stop sign?
>
> J :]
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>> From: "Art Deco"
>> To: "Vision 2020"
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Public Works Meeting
>> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 10:40:00 -0700
>>
>> What exasperates me about the city's attitude to the problem at D
>> street and
>> Mountain View is that apparently those that should have, have not
>> spent much
>> or anytime observing on weekday mornings and afternoons when
>> traffic and
>> children are at their highest. Should you doubt the problem, when
>> school
>> starts, go and look for a morning or two.
>>
>> But J Ford should not be surprised considering the length of time
>> to put a
>> crosswalk across the Moscow-Pullman Highway near Tri-State. It
>> was nice to
>> get a cross walk and paths, but a pedestrian activated crosswalk
>> stoplight
>> on demand would lessen the problem that still exists.
>>
>> W.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "J Ford"
>> To:
>> Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 11:52 PM
>> Subject: [Vision2020] Public Works Meeting
>>
>>
>> >I watched the PW Committee meeting today and wondered just who
>> the City
>> > Staff thinks they work for. It certainly did not look like they
>> were
>> > working for the safety and/or good will for the citizens. When the
>> > discussion turned to a need for a four-way Stop sign on "D" and
>> Mt. View,
>> > it
>> > got kinda muddled as to why it was such a question - the safety
>> of the
>> > children and drivers who use that intersection SHOULD be the
>> primary
>> > concern. But even the Mayor seemed to think that the three or
>> four people
>> > who spoke up for the Stop sign were off base. And Walter Steed
>> had some
>> > interesting notes but even he seemed confused about his stand -
>> 40(+)
>> > people
>> > in the space of 45min for one intersection is nothing to ignore
>> and yet he
>> > thinks it is.
>> >
>> > The fact that several people pointed out there are now four/five
>> different
>> > places of congregating children and families in that immediate
>> area should
>> > dictate the City needs to be cognizant of the safety issue that
>> people
>> > face
>> > every day at that intersection. As two people pointed out, the
>> area is
>> > expanding and more people are moving into the area almost
>> daily. All this
>> > does is increase the traffic in and out of the area and it
>> should make
>> > sense
>> > to people that that traffic needs to be better controlled.
>> >
>> > I would hope the entire City Counsel saw it as the Committee
>> Members
>> > seemed
>> > to feel - the need is there and it would behoove the City to,
>> for once,
>> > use
>> > preventative medicine BEFORE we have a child or car flattened.
>> >
>> > BTW - did anyone realize that the speed limit on that road is
>> 35mph!?
>> > Seems
>> > a might fast to me. Especially considering there are children
>> in that
>> > area
>> > rather heavily during a major part of the year and during the
>> daytime.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > J :]
>> >
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