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<DIV><FONT size=4>A healthy outcome to this discussion is that we agree that
something needs to be done soon. Now if those in charge were in
tune... Ah, but that is too great an expectation.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>W.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=the_ivies3@yahoo.com href="mailto:the_ivies3@yahoo.com">Tom Ivie</A>
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<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=jeanlivingston@turbonet.com
href="mailto:jeanlivingston@turbonet.com">Bruce and Jean Livingston</A> ; <A
title=kcraine@verizon.net href="mailto:kcraine@verizon.net">Craine Kit</A> ; <A
title=vision2020@moscow.com href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision 2020</A>
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<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=jweber@ci.moscow.id.us
href="mailto:jweber@ci.moscow.id.us">john weber</A> ; <A
title=bstout@ci.moscow.id.us href="mailto:bstout@ci.moscow.id.us">Robert
Stout</A> ; <A title=nchaney@moscow.com href="mailto:nchaney@moscow.com">Nancy
Chaney</A> ; <A title=JohnDickinson@moscow.com
href="mailto:JohnDickinson@moscow.com">john dickinson</A> ; <A
title=blambert@ci.moscow.id.us href="mailto:blambert@ci.moscow.id.us">bill
lambert</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 16, 2006 11:54 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] Public Works Meeting</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>The Mayor suggested a pedestrian activated light, which I agree is a good
idea. These are more expensive than a stop sign and usually require
funding which takes several years. We could do a 4 way stop
until pedestrian activated lights could be installed, if that is something
our leaders would want to do. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>As far as blinking lights go...isn't there one at 6th and Blaine? But
who notices it? I hit that intersection all the time and someone had to
point the light out to me. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>One problem with "school zones" is that drivers assume the caution is
during the school months and not during the summer children are also
present.<BR><BR><B><I>Bruce and Jean Livingston <<A
href="mailto:jeanlivingston@turbonet.com">jeanlivingston@turbonet.com</A>></I></B>
wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq
style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Frankly,
I don't understand why they don't put a traffic light there, set it <BR>for
blinking yellow much of the day in the Mountainview direction, but run <BR>it
with actual red and green alternating lights for the high traffic, "kid"
<BR>times, say 7 a.m. to 9 a.m., and 2 p.m. until 4 or even 6 pm given the
"kid <BR>use" of the athletic facilities all around that intersection. The
traffic <BR>back-up on D St. can be significant, and a regimented crossing
opportunity <BR>that an actual red light on Mountainview would provide is
significant.<BR><BR>Parents would also be much more likely to allow children
to walk to school <BR>if they had confidence in the safety of their child when
crossing <BR>Mountainview at D Street.<BR><BR>Bruce Livingston<BR><BR>-----
Original Message ----- <BR>From: "Craine Kit" <KCRAINE@VERIZON.NET><BR>To:
"Vision 2020" <VISION2020@MOSCOW.COM><BR>Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006
10:21 AM<BR>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Public Works Meeting<BR><BR><BR>>
Here are the photos showing the flashing lights.<BR>><BR>> Kit
Craine<BR>><BR>><BR><BR><BR>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR><BR><BR>><BR>><BR><BR><BR>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>On
Aug 15, 2006, at 9:00 PM, J Ford wrote:<BR><BR>> What I did not like was/is
the Mayor's attitude that the citizens<BR>> of Moscow are too stupid to see
a Stop sign much less heed it and<BR>> stop. She apparently has little
appreciation for the intelligence<BR>> of all of us that use that road. It
may, MAY take a time or two<BR>> for people to see the Stop sign but with a
campaign of<BR>> notifications through the papers, news radio shows, etc, I
believe<BR>> it would be a non-issue fairly quickly. As one person pointed
out,<BR>> we all adapted rather well and rather quickly to the mess
on<BR>> Washington and on 6th.<BR>><BR>> Given that attitude of hers,
why would putting a flashing light and<BR>> a sign saying "School Zone" be
any different? What would make<BR>> people anymore aware and slow down
anymore than a Stop sign?<BR>><BR>> J
:]<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>> From: "Art Deco"
<DECO@MOSCOW.COM><BR>>> To: "Vision 2020"
<VISION2020@MOSCOW.COM><BR>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Public Works
Meeting<BR>>> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 10:40:00
-0700<BR>>><BR>>> What exasperates me about the city's attitude to
the problem at D<BR>>> street and<BR>>> Mountain View is that
apparently those that should have, have not<BR>>> spent much<BR>>>
or anytime observing on weekday mornings and afternoons when<BR>>>
traffic and<BR>>> children are at their highest. Should you doubt the
problem, when<BR>>> school<BR>>> starts, go and look for a morning
or two.<BR>>><BR>>> But J Ford should not be surprised considering
the length of time<BR>>> to put a<BR>>> crosswalk across the
Moscow-Pullman Highway near Tri-State. It<BR>>> was nice to<BR>>>
get a cross walk and paths, but a pedestrian activated crosswalk<BR>>>
stoplight<BR>>> on demand would lessen the problem that still
exists.<BR>>><BR>>> W.<BR>>> ----- Original Message
-----<BR>>> From: "J Ford" <PRIVATEJF32@HOTMAIL.COM><BR>>> To:
<VISION2020@MOSCOW.COM><BR>>> Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 11:52
PM<BR>>> Subject: [Vision2020] Public Works
Meeting<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> >I watched the PW Committee
meeting today and wondered just who<BR>>> the City<BR>>> >
Staff thinks they work for. It certainly did not look like they<BR>>>
were<BR>>> > working for the safety and/or good will for the
citizens. When the<BR>>> > discussion turned to a need for a four-way
Stop sign on "D" and<BR>>> Mt. View,<BR>>> > it<BR>>>
> got kinda muddled as to why it was such a question - the
safety<BR>>> of the<BR>>> > children and drivers who use that
intersection SHOULD be the<BR>>> primary<BR>>> > concern. But
even the Mayor seemed to think that the three or<BR>>> four
people<BR>>> > who spoke up for the Stop sign were off base. And
Walter Steed<BR>>> had some<BR>>> > interesting notes but even
he seemed confused about his stand -<BR>>> 40(+)<BR>>> >
people<BR>>> > in the space of 45min for one intersection is nothing
to ignore<BR>>> and yet he<BR>>> > thinks it is.<BR>>>
><BR>>> > The fact that several people pointed out there are now
four/five<BR>>> different<BR>>> > places of congregating
children and families in that immediate<BR>>> area should<BR>>>
> dictate the City needs to be cognizant of the safety issue
that<BR>>> people<BR>>> > face<BR>>> > every day at
that intersection. As two people pointed out, the<BR>>> area
is<BR>>> > expanding and more people are moving into the area
almost<BR>>> daily. All this<BR>>> > does is increase the
traffic in and out of the area and it<BR>>> should make<BR>>> >
sense<BR>>> > to people that that traffic needs to be better
controlled.<BR>>> ><BR>>> > I would hope the entire City
Counsel saw it as the Committee<BR>>> Members<BR>>> >
seemed<BR>>> > to feel - the need is there and it would behoove the
City to,<BR>>> for once,<BR>>> > use<BR>>> >
preventative medicine BEFORE we have a child or car flattened.<BR>>>
><BR>>> > BTW - did anyone realize that the speed limit on that
road is<BR>>> 35mph!?<BR>>> > Seems<BR>>> > a might
fast to me. Especially considering there are children<BR>>> in
that<BR>>> > area<BR>>> > rather heavily during a major part
of the year and during the<BR>>> daytime.<BR>>> ><BR>>>
><BR>>> ><BR>>> > J :]<BR>>> ><BR>>> >
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