[Vision2020] Reducing cars in town
Donovan Arnold
donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
Thu Aug 3 22:04:49 PDT 2006
Good points Paul. I agree. The University does use parking as a money maker.
But it is going to find, I think that parking costs more to create than they can charge, which is why they have not yet build a parking garage between the Memorial Gym and the Administration building, behind the Education building. They would have to charge $250 a spot just to break even on the construction.
I only get the blue parking permit because the red I could never find a spot. I cannot get any other color.
Best,
_DJA
Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote: I'm not qualified to comment on how well that kind of system would work. However, I don't personally think that the UI will do anything like that until they get the "parking is revenue" idea out of their heads. Remember the good old days when you could park for free at the Dome and hoof it to class? Or on the street? The permit prices are getting way out of control, and even if you have one you can't park in lots of areas because you don't have the right color permit and can't get one. And the "parking nazis" drive cars made to look like police cars with stickers on the doors and lights on top of them.
Make us poor staff pay for our permits, fine. Keep the price of a Gold permit high, and also the Magenta, Silver, and whatever other student ones there are. If you keep the price higher, more people will find alternate ways to get to work. Save the good spots for disabled parking and meters, but reduce the prices for Blue permits, get rid of Red permits, reduce the number of Magenta, Silver, etc, and open up areas on the outskirts of campus for free parking. Try alternate ideas like increasing the shuttle runs and putting in more bicycle parking. Stop trying to make the poor parking situation into a money-maker.
Paul
Donovan Arnold wrote: Hansen, you lack imagination or are unaware of how public transportation funding works. Do you think public transportation is actually covered by the $1 fee to ride the bus anywhere, or do you think that the taxpayer slips in most the funding?
Do you think libraries pay for everything through late fees?
No, the costs to the taxpayer is repaid in savings on the costs for road repairs, reduction in insurance premiums, and the cost of not producing more parking spaces. This combined with the charging of a small fee for the users of the program would cover the costs.
Nobody said anything about free gas. When you rent a car it is filled up with gas and you are required to return it filled up with gas.
In the Communication Department at UI, most Comm students cannot afford all the technical equipment of video cameras, editing equipment, special lenses, etc, so they all pay a fee to pay for communication equipment, in return, the comm students get to rent the equipment. Do the same thing with a vehicle program. Students could leave their cars at home, pay a fee, then access a car on the few occasions that they really need a car.
Best,
_DJA
Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote: v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } I am certain that these ideas presented by Arnold will be immediately adopted once a source of free gasoline and free cars is identified.
Keep us informed, ok?
Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, a drink in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO. What a ride!'"
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From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Donovan Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 6:29 PM
To: Art Deco; Vision 2020
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Reducing cars in town
What if the University were to include free ( or reduced price) car rentals for each student and offered free bus rides to Boise, Twin Falls, Portland, and Seattle, (and cities in between during vacation times), to students that elected not to bring a car to the University, which is unneeded for most on campus living students.
If a student could rent a car from the UI for the day, or a few hours once in a while, they might elect to do that instead of bringing a car that eats at their wallet when they really don't need one most the time. It would also free up parking spaces on campus and downtown.
Just an idea.
Best,
_DJA
Art Deco <deco at moscow.com> wrote:
When I was a student here in 58-62 and 66-69, students were actively
discouraged from bringing vehicles to the university. Is there any chance
of reviving that policy?
W.
----- Original Message -----
From: "david sarff"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Vision2020 Digest, Vol 2, Issue 16
>I would like to see transportation distribution zones that restrict
>vehicles
> by weight class.
> On national and local levels.
>
> Also, it would be great to give the students incentive to leave their cars
> home. Offer tuition or housing cost adjustments. Something.
>
> Out of the last 43 years that I can remember of Moscow. The volume of
> traffic seems exponentially larger than the increase in actual population.
> Growing traffic adds a certain madness to Moscow and to the nation that I
> certainly would prefer have go away.
>
> By the looks of the developing infeed/outfeed status-quo infrastructure.
> Traffic pressure does not look as though its going to ease off anytime
> soon.
>
> Dave Sarff
>
>
>
>>From: Nils Peterson
>>
>>
>>What a fine opportunity to talk about alternative transportation modes.
>>Thanks Tom Ivie for your recent post on Federal Funding for such work. And
>>thanks to the COOP for starting your effort to get shoppers to use
>>alternative modes, looks like you were planning ahead.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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