Good points Paul. I agree. The University does use parking as a money maker. <br> <br> But it is going to find, I think that parking costs more to create than they can charge, which is why they have not yet build a parking garage between the Memorial Gym and the Administration building, behind the Education building. They would have to charge $250 a spot just to break even on the construction. <br> <br> I only get the blue parking permit because the red I could never find a spot. I cannot get any other color. <br> <br> Best, <br> <br> _DJA<br><br><b><i>Paul Rumelhart <godshatter@yahoo.com></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"><title></title> I'm not qualified to comment on how well that kind of system would work. However, I don't personally think that the UI will do anything like
that until they get the "parking is revenue" idea out of their heads. Remember the good old days when you could park for free at the Dome and hoof it to class? Or on the street? The permit prices are getting way out of control, and even if you have one you can't park in lots of areas because you don't have the right color permit and can't get one. And the "parking nazis" drive cars made to look like police cars with stickers on the doors and lights on top of them.<br> <br> Make us poor staff pay for our permits, fine. Keep the price of a Gold permit high, and also the Magenta, Silver, and whatever other student ones there are. If you keep the price higher, more people will find alternate ways to get to work. Save the good spots for disabled parking and meters, but reduce the prices for Blue permits, get rid of Red permits, reduce the number of Magenta, Silver, etc, and open up areas on the outskirts of campus for
free parking. Try alternate ideas like increasing the shuttle runs and putting in more bicycle parking. Stop trying to make the poor parking situation into a money-maker.<br> <br> Paul<br> <br> Donovan Arnold wrote: <blockquote cite="mid20060803020911.91262.qmail@web38107.mail.mud.yahoo.com" type="cite">Hansen, you lack imagination or are unaware of how public transportation funding works. Do you think public transportation is actually covered by the $1 fee to ride the bus anywhere, or do you think that the taxpayer slips in most the funding?<br> <br> Do you think libraries pay for everything through late fees?<br> <br> No, the costs to the taxpayer is repaid in savings on the costs for road repairs, reduction in insurance premiums, and the cost of not producing more parking spaces. This combined with the charging of a small fee for the users of the program would cover the costs. <br> <br> Nobody said anything about free
gas. When you rent a car it is filled up with gas and you are required to return it filled up with gas.<br> <br> In the Communication Department at UI, most Comm students cannot afford all the technical equipment of video cameras, editing equipment, special lenses, etc, so they all pay a fee to pay for communication equipment, in return, the comm students get to rent the equipment. Do the same thing with a vehicle program. Students could leave their cars at home, pay a fee, then access a car on the few occasions that they really need a car. <br> <br> Best,<br> <br> _DJA <br> <br> <br> <br> <b><i>Tom Hansen <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"><thansen@moscow.com></a></i></b> wrote: <blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; "> <meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word
11 (filtered medium)"> <!--[if !mso]> <style> v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} </style> <![endif]--><o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="State"> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="City"> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"> <!--[if !mso]> <style> st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } </style> <![endif]--> <style> <!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:blue;
text-decoration:underline;} p {mso-margin-top-alt:auto; margin-right:0in; mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; margin-left:0in; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} span.EmailStyle18 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; font-family:Arial; color:navy;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> </o:SmartTagType></o:SmartTagType></o:SmartTagType> <div class="Section1"> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">I am certain that these ideas presented by <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Arnold</st1:place></st1:City> will be immediately adopted once a source of free gasoline and free cars is identified.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color:
navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Keep us informed, ok?<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Tom Hansen<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Moscow</span></font></st1:City><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">, <st1:State w:st="on">Idaho</st1:State></span></font></st1:place><font color="navy" face="Arial"
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: navy;">"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, a drink in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO. What a ride!'"</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;" align="center"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> <hr tabindex="-1" align="center" size="2" width="100%"> </span></font></div> <div
class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>] <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Donovan Arnold<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, August 02, 2006 6:29 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Art Deco; Vision 2020<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Vision2020] Reducing cars in town</span></font><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:
12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">What if the University were to include free ( or reduced price) car rentals for each student and offered free bus rides to Boise, Twin Falls, Portland, and Seattle, (and cities in between during vacation times), to students that elected not to bring a car to the University, which is unneeded for most on campus living students.<br> <br> If a student could rent a car from the UI for the day, or a few hours once in a while, they might elect to do that instead of bringing a car that eats at their wallet when they really don't need one most the time. It would also free up parking spaces on campus and downtown. <br> <br> Just an idea.<br> <br> Best,<br> <br> _DJA <br> <br> <br> <br> <b><i><span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">Art Deco <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:deco@moscow.com"><deco@moscow.com></a></span></i></b> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></div> <div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">When I was a student here in 58-62 and 66-69, students were actively <br> discouraged from bringing vehicles to the university. Is there any chance <br> of reviving that policy?<br> <br> W.<br> ----- Original Message ----- <br> From: "david sarff" <br> <davesway @hotmail.com="">To: <br> <vision2020 @moscow.com="">Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 9:11 AM<br> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Vision2020 Digest, Vol 2, Issue 16<br> <br> <br> >I would like to see transportation distribution zones that restrict <br> >vehicles<br> > by weight class.<br> > On national and local levels.<br> ><br> > Also, it would be great to give the students incentive to leave their cars<br> > home. Offer tuition or housing cost
adjustments. Something.<br> ><br> > Out of the last 43 years that I can remember of <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City>. The volume of<br> > traffic seems exponentially larger than the increase in actual population.<br> > Growing traffic adds a certain madness to <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Moscow</st1:place></st1:City> and to the nation that I<br> > certainly would prefer have go away.<br> ><br> > By the looks of the developing infeed/outfeed status-quo infrastructure.<br> > Traffic pressure does not look as though its going to ease off anytime <br> > soon.<br> ><br> > Dave Sarff<br> ><br> ><br> ><br> >>From: Nils Peterson <br> <nils_peterson @wsu.edu="">>><br> >><br> >>What a fine opportunity to talk about alternative transportation modes.<br> >>Thanks Tom Ivie for your recent post on Federal Funding for such work. And<br>
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