[Vision2020] Other topics-- was: Water. Where do you stand on the issue?

Tom Ivie the_ivies3 at yahoo.com
Tue Apr 25 10:06:15 PDT 2006


In regards to the last issue "where do you stand":  I want to conserve.  But it costs me more to conserve than I can afford.  The cheapest rain barrel I can find is $100 plus shipping, I need at least 4 of them. I don't have the money to purchase a new front load washer and would have a hard time justifying it without an old broken one.  I can't afford to put in a sprinkler system (I would love to have one).  Sure, I got a 3% increase in pay this year, but my groceries, gasoline, clothing, health care insurance, and basically all consumables have increased this year by more than 3%.  I pay twice as much for water as my counter parts in southern Idaho.  And I just found out I will have to pay out $4000 on braces for a child.  What do you do? Where do you start?  I have low flush toilets and a water saver shower head (you can get that shower head free from the city!).  What else can I do?  
  
Nils Peterson <nils_peterson at wsu.edu> wrote:
  Decker and Chasuk have opened related discussions on economic and population
growth. Perhaps those are impossible to separate from the question of water,
but I'd like to ask that someone else lead those discussions as new threads.

We have several issues hanging out:
* Marginal cost of new water resources
* Fiscal impact of conservation on the City & water rates (fixed & marginal
costs)
* Water budget, paying for new uses of water by conserving on current uses
* Pressurized irrigation
* East Moscow water treatment plant
* And where to you stand: must conserve, painless conservation, don't
conserve

Plus a wiki page to compile our information


On 4/24/06 11:06 PM, "Matt Decker" wrote:

> 
> Nils,
> 
> I'm all ears. What would you suggest we do? Nils you said "Make changes in
> current policy and procedure that aim to conserve the
>> aquifer by changing personal and collective behaviors".
> I would open too consideration, without the anti growth aspect of it all. If
> we are going to continue to grow and have a future for our children here in
> Moscow Idaho we need to figure out if A. We have a water issue. B. how to
> solve is reasonably. C. do it so we can maintain who we are as Moscowanians.
> 
> There should allways be growth. To ignore this(not saying you or others are,
> just stating) will be the day this town becomes haunted by ghosts.
> 
> matt

Chasuk replied:
On 4/24/06, Matt Decker wrote:

> If we are going to continue to grow and have a future for our children here in
> Moscow

I hope that this isn't a naive question. It certainly isn't meant
disingenuously. But here it is: why is growth important? A town
isn't a corporation, in a business sense, so we don't have
shareholders to pay or a CEO. Therefore, what is the benefit of
growth? For myself, Moscow is the perfect size; that's why I live
here (amongst other reasons).

I guess I am anti-growth, if growth means increased congestion and
more crime and more anonymity.

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