[Vision2020] Other topics-- was: Water. Where do you stand on theissue?

[Mark Solomon]

Unfortunately Kai, the savings from the brick 
method are in the order of a quart or two per 
flush, not the 3.5 gallons of a retrofit.

But every little bit counts.

m.

At 9:22 AM -0700 4/25/06, Kai Eiselein, LatahEagle Editor wrote:
>You know, you don't have to trash the toilets, 
>an easy way to make them use less water is to 
>put a brick or two in the tank. The red ones 
>work well.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com 
>[mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]On Behalf 
>Of Donovan Arnold
>Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 8:38 AM
>To: Nils Peterson; Matt Decker; vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Other topics-- was: 
>Water. Where do you stand on theissue?
>
>Instead of over flowing Latah's landfills with 
>endless numbers of toilets, why not A) Require 
>new home developers to connect homes with a 
>fresh water pipe, and a reclaimed water pipe for 
>the toilet and outdoor watering. and/ or B) 
>Retro fit existing toilets to use less water. 
>Creating excessive waste to save water is not 
>thinking about the Earth.
>
>_DJA
>
>Nils Peterson <nils_peterson at wsu.edu> wrote:
>
>Decker and Chasuk have opened related discussions on economic and population
>growth. Perhaps those are impossible to separate from the question of water,
>but I'd like to ask that someone else lead those discussions as new threads.
>
>We have several issues hanging out:
>* Marginal cost of new water resources
>* Fiscal impact of conservation on the City & water rates (fixed & marginal
>costs)
>* Water budget, paying for new uses of water by conserving on current uses
>* Pressurized irrigation
>* East Moscow water treatment plant
>* And where to you stand: must conserve, painless conservation, don't
>conserve
>
>Plus a wiki page to compile our information
>
>
>On 4/24/06 11:06 PM, "Matt Decker" wrote:
>
>>
>>  Nils,
>>
>>  I'm all ears. What would you suggest we do? Nils you said "Make changes in
>>  current policy and procedure that aim to conserve the
>>>  aquifer by changing personal and collective behaviors".
>>  I would open too consideration, without the anti growth aspect of it all. If
>>  we are going to continue to grow and have a future for our children here in
>>  Moscow Idaho we need to figure out if A. We have a water issue. B. how to
>>  solve is reasonably. C. do it so we can maintain who we are as Moscowanians.
>>
>>  There should allways be growth. To ignore this(not saying you or others are,
>>  just stating) will be the day this town becomes haunted by ghosts.
>>
>>  matt
>
>Chasuk replied:
>On 4/24/06, Matt Decker wrote:
>
>>  If we are going to continue to grow and have a 
>>future for our children here in
>>  Moscow
>
>I hope that this isn't a naive question. It certainly isn't meant
>disingenuously. But here it is: why is growth important? A town
>isn't a corporation, in a business sense, so we don't have
>shareholders to pay or a CEO. Therefore, what is the benefit of
>growth? For myself, Moscow is the perfect size; that's why I live
>here (amongst other reasons).
>
>I guess I am anti-growth, if growth means increased congestion and
>more crime and more anonymity.
>
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