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<div>Unfortunately Kai, the savings from the brick method are in the
order of a quart or two per flush, not the 3.5 gallons of a
retrofit.</div>
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<div>But every little bit counts.</div>
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<div>m.</div>
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<div>At 9:22 AM -0700 4/25/06, Kai Eiselein, LatahEagle Editor
wrote:</div>
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color="#0000FF">You know, you don't have to trash the toilets, an easy
way to make them use less water is to put a brick or two in the tank.
The red ones work well.</font><br>
<blockquote><font size="-1">-----Original Message-----<br>
<b>From:</b> vision2020-bounces@moscow.com
[mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com]<b>On Behalf Of</b> Donovan
Arnold<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 25, 2006 8:38 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Nils Peterson; Matt Decker; vision2020@moscow.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Vision2020] Other topics-- was: Water. Where do
you stand on theissue?</font><br>
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<blockquote>Instead of over flowing Latah's landfills with endless
numbers of toilets, why not A) Require new home developers to connect
homes with a fresh water pipe, and a reclaimed water pipe for the
toilet and outdoor watering. and/ or B) Retro fit existing toilets to
use less water. Creating excessive waste to save water is not thinking
about the Earth.<br>
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_DJA<br>
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<i><b>Nils Peterson <nils_peterson@wsu.edu></b></i> wrote:<br>
<blockquote>Decker and Chasuk have opened related discussions on
economic and population<br>
growth. Perhaps those are impossible to separate from the question of
water,<br>
but I'd like to ask that someone else lead those discussions as new
threads.<br>
<br>
We have several issues hanging out:<br>
* Marginal cost of new water resources<br>
* Fiscal impact of conservation on the City & water rates (fixed &
marginal<br>
costs)<br>
* Water budget, paying for new uses of water by conserving on current
uses<br>
* Pressurized irrigation<br>
* East Moscow water treatment plant<br>
* And where to you stand: must conserve, painless conservation,
don't<br>
conserve<br>
<br>
Plus a wiki page to compile our information<br>
<br>
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On 4/24/06 11:06 PM, "Matt Decker" wrote:<br>
<br>
><br>
> Nils,<br>
><br>
> I'm all ears. What would you suggest we do? Nils you said
"Make changes in<br>
> current policy and procedure that aim to conserve the<br>
>> aquifer by changing personal and collective
behaviors".<br>
> I would open too consideration, without the anti growth aspect of
it all. If<br>
> we are going to continue to grow and have a future for our
children here in<br>
> Moscow Idaho we need to figure out if A. We have a water issue.
B. how to<br>
> solve is reasonably. C. do it so we can maintain who we are as
Moscowanians.<br>
><br>
> There should allways be growth. To ignore this(not saying you or
others are,<br>
> just stating) will be the day this town becomes haunted by
ghosts.<br>
><br>
> matt<br>
<br>
Chasuk replied:<br>
On 4/24/06, Matt Decker wrote:<br>
<br>
> If we are going to continue to grow and have a future for our
children here in<br>
> Moscow<br>
<br>
I hope that this isn't a naive question. It certainly isn't meant<br>
disingenuously. But here it is: why is growth important? A town<br>
isn't a corporation, in a business sense, so we don't have<br>
shareholders to pay or a CEO. Therefore, what is the benefit of<br>
growth? For myself, Moscow is the perfect size; that's why I live<br>
here (amongst other reasons).<br>
<br>
I guess I am anti-growth, if growth means increased congestion and<br>
more crime and more anonymity.<br>
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