[Vision2020] Other topics-- was: Water. Where do you stand on the issue?

Craine Kit kcraine at verizon.net
Wed Apr 26 10:42:14 PDT 2006


One other thing to think about:

How much water is lost to leaks in the delivery system?
Does the City have a mechanism to locate and repair leaks that can’t  
be seen?
Does the City have a program of regular replacement of old pipes?

I’ve noticed in my neighborhood that leaks that produce a weep of  
water on the street may be there for weeks to before the pipe is  
repaired. Those that bubble are fixed within a few days. The  
fountains are repaired immediately. Old water meters are replaced  
when repairs are needed. How much water is lost with this approach?

Kit Craine

On Apr 25, 2006, at 7:37 AM, Nils Peterson wrote:

> Decker and Chasuk have opened related discussions on economic and  
> population
> growth. Perhaps those are impossible to separate from the question  
> of water,
> but I'd like to ask that someone else lead those discussions as new  
> threads.
>
> We have several issues hanging out:
> * Marginal cost of new water resources
> * Fiscal impact of conservation on the City & water rates (fixed &  
> marginal
> costs)
> * Water budget, paying for new uses of water by conserving on  
> current uses
> * Pressurized irrigation
> * East Moscow water treatment plant
> * And where to you stand: must conserve, painless conservation, don't
> conserve
>
> Plus a wiki page to compile our information
>
>
> On 4/24/06 11:06 PM, "Matt Decker" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Nils,
>>
>> I'm all ears. What would you suggest we do? Nils you said "Make  
>> changes in
>> current policy and procedure that aim to conserve the
>>> aquifer by changing personal and collective behaviors".
>> I would open too consideration, without the anti growth aspect of  
>> it all. If
>> we are going to continue to grow and have a future for our  
>> children here in
>> Moscow Idaho we need to figure out if A. We have a water issue. B.  
>> how to
>> solve is reasonably. C. do it so we can maintain who we are as  
>> Moscowanians.
>>
>> There should allways be growth. To ignore this(not saying you or  
>> others are,
>> just stating) will be the day this town becomes haunted by ghosts.
>>
>> matt
>
> Chasuk replied:
> On 4/24/06, Matt Decker <mattd2107 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If we are going to continue to grow and have a future for our  
>> children here in
>> Moscow
>
> I hope that this isn't a naive question.  It certainly isn't meant
> disingenuously.  But here it is:  why is growth important?  A town
> isn't a corporation, in a business sense, so we don't have
> shareholders to pay or a CEO.  Therefore, what is the benefit of
> growth?  For myself, Moscow is the perfect size; that's why I live
> here (amongst other reasons).
>
> I guess I am anti-growth, if growth means increased congestion and
> more crime and more anonymity.
>
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